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re: Terminator Dark Fate Is Not Good (Possible Spoilers)

Posted on 10/25/19 at 4:34 pm to
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 10/25/19 at 4:34 pm to
Can’t believe this movie had buzz when the ad campaign began. The new terminator (character and CGI) looks terrible and it looks like it’s going to mix in a lot of SJW themed crap. When I heard Cameron and Hamilton were coming back I though it could be interesting but this just once again proves that big budget Hollywood can’t connect anymore.
This post was edited on 10/25/19 at 4:43 pm
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 10/25/19 at 5:02 pm to
Spoiler link is broken. Got another one?
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 10/25/19 at 6:59 pm to
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sacrathetic


Posted by Duzz
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Posted on 10/25/19 at 7:32 pm to
Yep, I believe I read somewhere the new John Connor is name Pablo Mendez which is PM which can be construed as Prophet Mohammed.

See what I did there?

Anyway, in any way, I will not be watching this Terminator and I watched all Terminators and their comics up to date. John Connor is the Lynch Pin to the Terminator series for me, it is on his backs that they beat the machines. I have always wanted to see the future War, but Genisys fricked it up. The opening battle of their future war was detailed as hell and I wanted more.

THis Terminator who just simply kill off John Connor to have an SJW John Connor plugged in place was asine.

The plot would have been just as well if this girl was carrying the next John Connor for the NEXT war and that John Connor was alive in the back ground building weapons to prepare for a possible battle with the future A.I having recognized how fast tech was advancing an a war with the machine is inevitable. It would be like a true passing of the torch instead of just wiping him out. The new John Connor could have used whatever tech the old John Connor left behind and thus you have the new bio enhance soldiers like Grace.

THey could have also set it further down in the timeline too but nope...had to erase John Connor for SJW reason.

Posted by sacrathetic
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 10/25/19 at 8:51 pm to
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Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 10/25/19 at 8:52 pm to
Like you said there’s such a long timeline you could build any number of great stories into it seamlessly. But to keep using alterations to the John Connor origin is lazy plus replacing him just for gender purposes is downright propaganda shoved down our throats. It’s lazy storytelling and whatever story they’re trying to tell ultimately takes a backseat to the politics of it. Like I said big budget Hollywood is just dead and pathetic at this point.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Posted on 10/25/19 at 9:13 pm to
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The new Terminator film will fall flat and barely be remembered years later. Most people will have a negative opinion of it, and they won't really understand why.

The last 3 terminator movies are all shitty and forgettable, and John Connor is a central character in each..... I mean.... I think he is. I don’t really remember any of them, yet I’ve seen them all.

This movie will suck for the many of same reasons as the previous 3. They haven’t found a way to advance the plot without shitting all over the first two films.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/26/19 at 6:32 am to
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They haven’t found a way to advance the plot without shitting all over the first two films.

i don't think it's really possible, which is why all the sequels suck

the only hope was the prequels, but bad directorial choices and Bale forcing them to re-write everything fricked that up
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 10/26/19 at 8:04 am to
Time travel movies can only do so much before they fold onto themselves and get jumbled up. It’s why I hate time travel plots.
Posted by StealthCalais11
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Posted on 10/26/19 at 2:35 pm to
You’re contributing the success of a movie about time traveling robots from a dystopian future to the far fetched comparison of the relationship of a 2000 year old hippie and his mother.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 10/26/19 at 6:53 pm to
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the only hope was the prequels, but bad directorial choices and Bale forcing them to re-write everything fricked that up


This

The only Terminator movies I would’ve wanted after T2 was of the future war. Ending with Reese being sent back in time, thus completing the loop.
Posted by Duzz
Houston
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 10/26/19 at 11:12 pm to
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the only hope was the prequels, but bad directorial choices and Bale forcing them to re-write everything fricked that up



Umm, did you read the original script? They wanted to kill off John connor and make it so that Warren Washington Character was actually John Connor all along.... like...WTF? At least with Bale script John Connor was STILL relevant.

Thought I will say the best John Connor was the one from Genisys. I think that future war version was bad arse in indepth. The whole him being assimilated was stupid.
This post was edited on 10/26/19 at 11:13 pm
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