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re: Supposed Amazon source: Rings of Power at 9.4M views TOTAL for 2 episodes, Ep.3 under 2M

Posted on 9/15/22 at 9:26 am to
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
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Posted on 9/15/22 at 9:26 am to
I didn't hate episode 1 & 2. I also didn't love them. It looked pretty but it was a touch boring. Harfoots suck.

I never got around to episode 3. I'll probably watch 3 & 4 this weekend and make my final determination if it is worth continuing.
Posted by CP3LSU25
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Posted on 9/15/22 at 9:48 am to
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TigerMyth36
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
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Posted on 9/15/22 at 9:48 am to
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why? the literally shat on Tolkien.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:03 am to
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They don’t have enough subplots.



I guess this is the luxury of reading the book.

GoT was all about succession to the throne. Even Jon and Ayra stories played into that. Hence the name of the series Game of Thrones. No matter how many so called kings popped up is was all about one thing. Who would sit on the Iron Throne.

The HoD is not different except fewer claims to the throne currently but just as many players behind the scenes trying to change who sits on the throne.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:17 am to
I still haven't watched episode 3. I might later, but I'm just not motivated to.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66396 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:20 am to
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Even Jon and Ayra stories played into that.


They played into it, but Jon also did completely h related things.

Most of his plot had nothing to do with the throne until the end.


And that’s kind ahow these shows should
Work. You gotta disperse your characters and the. Bring them together. This has been almost 1 story group the whole time outside the war against the Crabfeeder.
This post was edited on 9/15/22 at 10:40 am
Posted by YumYum Sauce
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:46 am to
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They're both fine, but HoD has mostly been people talking in large rooms or tents for four episodes


GoT is a dialogue driven show, with visuals sprinkled here and there.

LotR is an epic fantasy series, based on massive sets, mystical creatures, and adventure.


Right now Rings of Power is trying too hard to be smart and dialogue driven, period. Thats NOT their genre.
Posted by HollierThanThou
Member since Jan 2012
6209 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:09 am to
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Yes. And those moments were spread out between many concurrent stories all over a continent, and later a world. HoD has a royalty problem. The narrow focus makes it drag in a way that early thrones never did.


There are multiple GOT storyline that were so boring i had to FF. (Arya, SandSnakes, Emo Uncle, etc..)
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:16 am to
All I can say is that if 3 & 4 are similar to 1 & 2, I won't be continuing.

Having said that, I tend to shy away from watching any sci-fi / fantasy shows for the first couple of seasons because most networks bail on the shows and I don't want to get invested in a show headed for cancelation.

A bit different in this case if the show it really going forward with 5 seasons but I wonder if that number is true. If the leaked viewer numbers are true, this show will not make it 5 seasons.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Member since Aug 2021
24774 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:28 am to
More story & character development in 10 minutes of House of the Dragon than 3 episodes of RoP.

But y’all enjoy the community theatre Tolkien players.
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:59 am to
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HoD has a royalty problem. The narrow focus makes it drag in a way that early thrones never did.

you wish
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66396 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:59 am to
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More story & character development in 10 minutes of House of the Dragon than 3 episodes of RoP.


You hear. Or did you finally watch them?
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28832 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 12:08 pm to
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Not saying that is inaccurate but the highest-rated episodes of GOT only had about half that.




if i were a betting man, i'd say there's way more HBOMax subscribers than there ever were HBO subscriptions.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11833 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 12:11 pm to
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Most of his plot had nothing to do with the throne until the end.



It had everything to do with it. His whole story was that he was the true Heir. Even during season 1 without reading the books many were already speculating who he came to be.

After seeing the final season you can go back and look at the first episode and everything you need to know for the whole series is right there in front of you. It is all summed it.

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You gotta disperse your characters and the. Bring them together. This has been almost 1 story group the whole time outside the war against the Crabfeeder.


Except you are not understanding that this whole series is directly based on this family at current and their succession. If you have the book you would know there are many subplots already taking place and will emerge but to expect this to be more then about the family in charge would mean the show would have to take a bunch of liberties and create stuff that was not there.

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66396 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 12:22 pm to
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It had everything to do with it. His whole story was that he was the true Heir. Even during season 1 without reading the books many were already speculating who he came to be.


Speculating but him fighting wildlings doesn’t move that along. A lot of the plot develops Jon as a character and leader but He’s not up north plotting to take the thrown. He’s worried about the Night King, and the WW, which is a second major plot of the show.

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Except you are not understanding that this whole series is directly based on this family at current and their succession.


That’s why it’s drags a bit. It’s all that one family and they are all Together. So it ends up being them jsut sitting ina. Room talking about one thing.

It’s good but GOT had more going on.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 12:36 pm to
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GoT is a dialogue driven show, with visuals sprinkled here and there.

LotR is an epic fantasy series, based on massive sets, mystical creatures, and adventure.


Lord of the Rings is very much known for its dialogue. I’m willing to bet there are as many memorable often quoted lines from the film trilogy than there are in all of Game of Thrones, which is really saying a lot.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22726 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 12:51 pm to
The Amazon show, I think, literally could not use any of Tolkein's language because they didn't have the rights to it.

Thats still, however, zero excuse for their whole 'dog bark at the moon ship float rock sink' complete and utter dipshit nonsensical dialogue.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11833 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 12:51 pm to
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It’s good but GOT had more going on.


Yes and the books with their chapter breakdown was hard to follow at times.

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Speculating but him fighting wildlings doesn’t move that along. A lot of the plot develops Jon as a character and leader but He’s not up north plotting to take the thrown. He’s worried about the Night King, and the WW, which is a second major plot of the show.


The books were all about character development. But the main plot no matter what side stories there were was focused who sat on the throne.

Yes they could have spent some more time on the crab.

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That’s why it’s drags a bit. It’s all that one family and they are all Together. So it ends up being them jsut sitting ina. Room talking about one thing.


If they go the direction I think they will they are building up to something really good.
Posted by xenythx
Member since Dec 2007
32417 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 12:52 pm to
It’s incredible how all these “non-woke” critical review clickbait YouTube channels all have amazing sources high up in Amazon, Disney, Marvel, and Lucasfilm.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/15/22 at 12:53 pm to
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why? the literally shat on Tolkien.


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