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re: 'Supergirl' Discussion Thread: News, Box Office, RT. Spoilers Allowed. WW $68 mil OW

Posted on 6/29/26 at 12:46 pm to
Posted by CatfishJohn
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 12:46 pm to
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I thought the way they introduced her in Superman was terrible. She's drunk, stumbling around, then calls him a bitch. I thought that scene was freaking cringe



Agreed.

Also thought Crypto was terribly done. As someone who didn't know these characters ahead of time, like most of the world, I immediately thought "this movie would've been better without them".

Posted by SOBmustpay
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:50 pm to
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She’s drunk, stumbling around, then calls him a bitch


I swear they made her character this way thinking it would draw a ton of men in. But it’s like when a guy friend group has one girl who tries to be like “one of the boys” and they all look at her like a retard and roll their eyes.
Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:54 pm to
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Crypto was terribly done. As someone who didn't know these characters ahead of time, like most of the world


Old school DC guy here. Krypto has been around since the 1950s. I can remember whole storylines revolving around him in the 70s.

That being said, those were very rare. The dog was an extremely fringe character. Just as Ace, the Bat-Hound was for Batman.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:56 pm to
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New York Times Blames ‘Misogyny’ After Supergirl Crashes at the Box Office

"Female-led superhero movies have been rejected almost uniformly over the past five years or so, perhaps reflecting a resurgent misogyny among the core fan base, which is largely male." -The New York Times


Surprised they didn't specifically blame Trump.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:59 pm to
Krypto has been around since the 1950s

But Gunn just had to breed swap him so HIS doggo could be in franchise.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:00 pm to
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If you threw GOTG, True Grit, and Mad Max into a DC blender, you’d get #Supergirl -



I can see where they get the Mad Max similarities.

Posted by DeoreDX
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:03 pm to
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Exactly I asked my wife and her friends if they were interested. They looked at me like I had a 3rd eye


Women (aka my wife) is much more likely to want to see Thor in the bathtub scene with his shirt off than anything Superwoman related. She was all in on every movie with Thor in it after that scene. Like it or not Holywood just needs to admit both men and women are pretty basic in what they like to see on the big screen. They think Brad Pitt is a superstar because of his incredible acting skills?
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:05 pm to
Mine saw He-Man with me twice in part because of his transformation sequence
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:07 pm to
Posted by FairhopeTider
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:16 pm to
Fixed it…

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Some industry insiders who spoke to TheWrap say the problems run deeper than one underperforming film. “All this is, is a Gunn and Safran production deal,” one DC insider said of DC Films’ current trajectory. “It’s not a brand. Announcing a universe was dumb. DC created an expectation and now you have delivered one meh Superman movie.”


Gunn is the problem. His style and ego is a terrible fit for all of this. This universe is doomed until he is completely out of the picture.
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 2:25 pm
Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:21 pm to
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Make a movie “targeting Gen Z women”

2. 60% of your audience is men, Gen Z women don’t show up

3. Blame… men?

Do what?



Yeah

It amounts to a completely unfalsifiable way of looking at the world It's another contingent of just useless rage immune to reason.

If it doesn't suck people will want to see it. You put the movie in the hands of a person who hadn't earned it and doesn't know how to make a compelling story. Even when there are dozens of decent Supergirl stories to choose from.

The lack of accountability will likely be both breathtaking and completely unsurprising
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 2:23 pm
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:26 pm to
Variety has been impressive lately, an actual analysis of its failings rather than muh misogyny like most other outlets do with these things
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:28 pm to
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I think you can have a successful female superhero movie but you've still got to aim it at men, or at a bare minimum don't make it hostile towards them.


This isn't REALLY about something made for men and made for women.

One of these two things is true:

1) They like money. So they want to take something that has an established fanbase, that is fantastical and fun and easy to build - that's kind of what comic books are/represent - and believe that by changing that thing they will both keep the old audience and draw in new fans.

or

2) They don't like tradition/the patriarchy/takle your pick. Superhero movies are kind of now an established and relevant vehicle for entertainment, but they espouse the wrong values, and by changing them, they can attract a new audience, influence the original audience, and change the meaning behind this shared cultural thing. They think they can make money on the backend because they will create new kind of cultured people and new fans are a by-product.






Some folks in here will say, "They just want to make a Supergirl movie," and I just don't think that's true when you end up gutting it's meaning/intention. And that goes for all of these modern "adaptations."
Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:35 pm to
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Why Does Hollywood Keep Failing Female Superheroes?


Gal Gadot was great as Wonder Woman. Beautiful woman who embraced her role, and had a good story/script to work with. Audiences, male AND female liked her.

Milly Alcock, on the other hand, is a rather unfortunate looking young lady who clearly has a huge chip on her shoulder because of it. On top of which, she apparently seemed to embrace the rather bold strategy of “controversy sells”, judging from her comments. And this makes her unlikeable. Throw in a script written by an absolute neophyte…and this is what you get.
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 2:38 pm
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:43 pm to
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Variety has been impressive lately, an actual analysis of its failings rather than muh misogyny like most other outlets do with these things


I also think the trades are getting payback. Gunn's called them out a lot since he took over. This is why I've been saying he needs to stop talking. It comes back to haunt him.
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 3:19 pm to
Posted by TheFonz
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 3:20 pm to
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a rather unfortunate looking young lady


That’s exactly what my grandmother called ugly bitches. She said ugly was too harsh of a word.
Posted by CartmansMom
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 3:52 pm to
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can see where they get the Mad Max similarities.



I've been trying to figure out who she looks like. It finally hit me this morning that she looks like Spot from the good dinosaur, but the mad Max kid is dead ringer too.
Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 4:16 pm to
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I've been trying to figure out who she looks like. It finally hit me this morning that she looks like Spot from the good dinosaur, but the mad Max kid is dead ringer too.


She’s an Aussie with British teeth. Call it “Commonwealth teeth”, if you will.

They’re too big for her mouth. Gives her that Cro-Magnon look.
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 5:52 pm to


Harloff and Rocha had a good long discussion about everything here. They basically think they need to cancel everything, Teen Titans, Deathstroke and Bane etc, and focus on Batman and Wonder Woman movies to set a foundation
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 6:00 pm
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