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re: Succession Alert
Posted on 5/15/23 at 11:14 am to JDPndahizzy
Posted on 5/15/23 at 11:14 am to JDPndahizzy
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This was a huge betrayal on the business side but also on the personal/family side. Could you imagine finding out your sister has been spoon feeding your rival the personal conversations and strategy you've shared with her? This is a massive betrayal and I too didn't feel the writers gave it the attention and fallout that it would certainly have in the real world.
I thought the same as y'all. I've still got to rewatch again because this is one of those shows where if you miss a single word of dialogue or even a facial expression you've missed something important. When they found out I thought maybe they didn't have the whole story and that's they weren't as pissed off as they should be.
I can't stand Shiv as a character but Sarah Snook has been on fire with her performances these last few episodes. Watching her meltdown is incredible TV
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Posted on 5/15/23 at 11:20 am to Corso
When Greg plays the game with Shiv by asking what his cooperation is worth, and she responds with nothing but cliche violence hyperbole, they both knew he had her beat.
This post was edited on 5/15/23 at 11:21 am
Posted on 5/15/23 at 11:34 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Roman is losing it and slowly becoming unhinged. He does not handle power well.
We also have to remember that he has a microdick and he always gets it wrong .
He’s gonna end up getting this wrong too, they were saying out loud that they were calling it for Mencken because he would kill the GoJo deal. I think that’s gonna come back to bite them big time.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 11:39 am to HeLeakin
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Absolutely fantastic!
Also the wasabi and Le Croix scene. Hahaha
Posted on 5/15/23 at 12:00 pm to stout
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No, it's just that no one has ever told you how insufferable you have become. I am. Now go put on your therapy hat and think of how to overcome that.
don't you have a thread to start on the OT about trannies right about now?
You just love discussing trannies.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 12:04 pm to skullhawk
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Felt like the succession story took a bit of a backseat so the writers could get in their "Trump" episode. It will suck if they stay hung up on this issue much longer.
The 'succession story' at its core is a power struggle. That was everywhere in last nights episode. Roman's relationship with the future president, Shiv's betrayal of the family, Ken's seemingly cautioned/neutral approach up until he caught Shiv which led him to jumping feet first in with Roman.
Another interesting part last night was Tom doing a 180 at the end. The whole night it was "his call" and he was in charge until at the very end he left it up to Roman and Ken.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 12:07 pm to St Augustine
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vaguely remember the episode where all the potential candidates were at a fundraiser and the Roy’s chatted with them but I don’t remember anything truly overt,
That whole episode was essentially about how Mencken was the extreme candidate that most in the room was uncomfortable with, yet through the course of events got minted by the roys. Most of the details, iirc, were people recalling things Menchen had said that suggested some problematic ideas. Not super detailed but the the details aren't the point to take away.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 12:18 pm to highanklesprain20
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That whole episode was essentially about how Mencken was the extreme candidate that most in the room was uncomfortable with, yet through the course of events got minted by the roys. Most of the details, iirc, were people recalling things Menchen had said that suggested some problematic ideas. Not super detailed but the the details aren't the point to take away
Y'all aren't giving Roman enough credit, as Roman cultivated the relationship with Mencken from the caucus 6 months prior, even going after Mencken to meet the Roys, when Mencken refused to meet Logan.
Mencken wouldn't grovel on Logan's terms like the other candidates so Roman went after Mencken and brought him upstairs, Roman listened to Mencken's ideas in the foyer (classical conservatism, nothing too radical) and made sure Mencken handed Logan the can of Coke as he walked past him on the way out like a boss.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 12:19 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Another interesting part last night was Tom doing a 180 at the end. The whole night it was "his call" and he was in charge until at the very end he left it up to Roman and Ken.
Also worth noting I think that there was a clear defined line between being on the media floor in Logan’s era during election night versus under the siblings.
Logan backed Menken but I don’t know that he makes the call they did as the head. IMO I think that’s where it becomes too personal for Roman. I think Logan definitely sews doubt over what happened in Wisconsin to favor Menken but he also was the kind of guy that had an alternate plan.
Roman put all of his eggs in the Menken basket. His Dad wouldn’t do that.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 12:28 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Logan backed Menken but I don’t know that he makes the call they did as the head. IMO I think that’s where it becomes too personal for Roman. I think Logan definitely sews doubt over what happened in Wisconsin to favor Menken but he also was the kind of guy that had an alternate plan.
Roman put all of his eggs in the Menken basket. His Dad wouldn’t do that.
Agreed. Logan would have been more cautious so he could still work with both sides no matter the outcome. He would have pushed the narrative sure, but not go all in that early like the kids did.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 12:46 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Posted on 5/15/23 at 12:50 pm to Byron Bojangles III
You can almost see the sweat breaking out when Kendall stepped out to make that call.
Kendall’s face on the phone:
Kendall’s face on the phone:
Posted on 5/15/23 at 1:36 pm to St Augustine
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Somewhat yes. But they repeatedly talked about how bad it was for america as well. The actress who played shiv even talked about how this was her altruistic side and even though it was convenient for her to support Jiminez she was still supporting who was good for democracy.
There’s definitely some ideology with Shiv, she was involved in politics before being a part of the company. And if I remember correctly she essentially turned down a Chief of Staff position in the previous Administration to instead be the successor of Logan.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 1:43 pm to smash williams
Yeah I think it’s mostly the reviewers and their ideologies 
It’s almost like they think Mencken is a real person
It’s almost like they think Mencken is a real person
Posted on 5/15/23 at 1:44 pm to smash williams
Can we all agree that the foreshadowing in this episode is that the Mencken call is definitely going to come back and bite them in the arse?
I wasn't so sure until they didn't let Darwin give the anecdotes at the end.
I wasn't so sure until they didn't let Darwin give the anecdotes at the end.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 1:49 pm to Triple Bogey
It might.
I don’t know the ins and outs of election laws and all of that but I imagine part of the reason Logan kept that barrier between him and the floor on election night was to create some plausible deniability in case regulation issues came up.
It’s far easier to say someone like Tom did it without pressure from the CEO(s). And for someone like Tom to be the scapegoat.
I think they fricked up big time by stepping on the floor.
I don’t know the ins and outs of election laws and all of that but I imagine part of the reason Logan kept that barrier between him and the floor on election night was to create some plausible deniability in case regulation issues came up.
It’s far easier to say someone like Tom did it without pressure from the CEO(s). And for someone like Tom to be the scapegoat.
I think they fricked up big time by stepping on the floor.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 1:59 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Another interesting part last night was Tom doing a 180 at the end. The whole night it was "his call" and he was in charge until at the very end he left it up to Roman and Ken.
I wonder if Tom will have a way to smash them in the face with that information when it bites them in the arse
Posted on 5/15/23 at 2:15 pm to LasVegasTiger
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Le Croix scene
It’s not even that lemony
Posted on 5/15/23 at 2:28 pm to Adam Banks
Posted on 5/15/23 at 2:49 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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Lol at Reddit and Twitter saying "at least shiv cared about who would run the country
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She only cares about whoever wins will be best for her
THIS. She tried to pretend she was only acting in the best interest of "virtue" and "democracy" but she was absolutely trying to benefit herself as well if not more so
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