re: Stranger Things Season 4 official discussion thread. (Spoilers)

Wow. Great ending. They used pieces of Snyder’s Watchmen Dr Manhattan theme for the story of Vecna. And it worked perfectly. I wish he was the villain from the beginning of the series.

Or not lol

That was a good last episode. Kinda glad they took a break from Mike and co.

Eddie is definitely a goner. I hate it because he’s grown on me but I do think he does it to save Dustin and the Hellfire crew. It’s going to be one of Steve, Nancy, Jonathan or Max. Max still has the letters lying around for people who haven’t read them yet. Steve has a pretty bad wound but Duffers love setting someone else up to die only for someone else to bite it. Plus, Steve was supposed to die in Season 1. I think they just enjoy Joe and his character too much to kill him off just yet.

Two most likely will be Nancy or Jonathan. I do agree Joyce has been through a lot and it would just be too much to see her and the Byers suffer again but he’s wearing thin as a character. He really has no bonds with any other characters besides Nancy (who he wants to break up with) and Will. His character lacks depth and direction ever since he got to hook up with Nancy in Season 2. Hell most of Season 3 he was just tailing Nancy around and never interacted with anyone else or bonded with anyone else. Sure there’s the whole…Byers have been through enough and they need happiness but it would make sense story wise for Jonathan to bite it. But it would make a lot of sense for Nancy to go too with her still feeling guilt about Barb. But I think she’s got more on the canvas as a character for her to bite it.


For sure: Eddie

Possibly: Jonathan, Nancy, Steve

First time in a while a show has caught me off guard.

I knew that the guard was #001 as soon as he brought it up to 11 but I never expected him to be a complete psycho killer dude. Much less the son from the house and Vecna.

They did an incredible job of tying several things together, including explaining the origin of the entire show.

I just learned that that the actor who played Victor Crull was the original actor who played Freddy Krueger in the Nightmare on Elm Street series.

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First time in a while a show has caught me off guard.

I knew that the guard was #001 as soon as he brought it up to 11 but I never expected him to be a complete psycho killer dude. Much less the son from the house and Vecna.

They did an incredible job of tying several things together, including explaining the origin of the entire show

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Rewatched Episode 7 (had a few bourbons in me on first viewing and felt like I had missed some details).

A riveting bit of television.

Yes, they absolutely wove some threads that tie things together very well and NOT just as a convenience.

001 was evil; therefore, it would make sense that his obliteration would open the portal to the upside down.

It is also fascinating that 11 created the Hawkins portal (which, clearly, wasn't the only one [the Soviets had theirs]).

This is 1986. Victor's been locked up for "about" 30 years. Let's say 30. That puts the family murder in 1956. The boy/Vecna looks like he was about 10/11 (which would square with dad returning from WWII).

The events with 001 were in 1979, so 24 years later. Could 001 have been 34/35 in 1979? He was youngish, but considering he had lived his whole life as a lab rat, it's possible a 35 year would have appeared younger. A minor detail.

As for the speculation as to who dies, the fact everyone is on the table is a testament to the writers. That said, Eddie is an easy choice for the reasons stated.

In looking at the Volume 2 trailer, it looks like the Hawkins kids go into the upside down (Robyn is back with Steve and Nancy in one shot - so Nancy clearly snaps out of her trance). My guess is in response to Nancy not coming out.

I don't recall seeing any of the roadtrip crew (Mike, Will, Jonathan, Argyle), which is interesting.

I'm thinking that Brenner and Owen will buy it in the Army raid that's clearly coming and that 11 will wipe them out, leaving her weakened heading to Hawkins (road trip crew will come on scene shortly after and bring 11 to Hawkins).

As for USSR angle, I am at a loss as to how they're going to get out of there. Not only are the Russkies an issue, but I suspect those captured monsters will not stay captured long.

July 1 can't come soon enough

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As for USSR angle, I am at a loss as to how they're going to get out of there. Not only at the Russkies an issue, but I suspect those captured monsters will not stay captured long.

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This is my favorite part honestly

Getting out of the prison camp is one thing. They still have to get out of Russia. Maybe Yuri redeems himself.


Any ideas how the music repels vecna/001? Victor Creel with dream a little dream and Max with Kate Bush? Or just a quirk they came up with to save Max since we now know 001 basically set up Victor to take the fall and suffer. I know it can take them away from the internal suffering or ptsd which summons vecna but im more interested in how it ties into 001. Like someone above said there’s Eddie shredding on the guitar in the trailer which hasn’t happened in the series yet so maybe there is something. Music being vecna’s weakness like demigorgons with fire. I had a pretty good theory about it before going to bed last night but woke up and don’t remember shite lmao

That was a great season, might be better than season 1. Vecna is the bad guy I think we’ve all really been waiting for/expecting. Those monsters were sort of lame but the story was cool which made up for it in earlier seasons. Eddie is the man, great addition. They really knocked this season out of the park and it’s rare you see a show flip a switch like that in tone.

I'm enjoying the season but the Eleven in the lab stuff is super boring and repetitive.

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That was a good last episode. Kinda glad they took a break from Mike and co.

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Mike’s character sucks. Easily the most hated of the crew; other than the evil antagonists..