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re: Started a Mad Men rewatch
Posted on 8/13/26 at 9:37 am to LasVegasTiger
Posted on 8/13/26 at 9:37 am to LasVegasTiger
Man, that entire "Bob" storyline was gold. After going through the entire "who cares?" debacle with Cooper and Don's past, Pete finds out about Bob's past and just throws his hands in the air because evidently no one there gives a shite, so Pete is just gonna' make whatever lemonade he can out of the situation.
Posted on 8/13/26 at 10:20 am to Fewer Kilometers
Pete’s entire life is built around the legacy of an elite NY family who lost their wealth during the 1929 crash. His parents end up broke/in debt by the end of their lives which leaves him with nothing in an inheritance. Through most of the series his unhappiness is due to him feeling like he is not getting what he is owed to him by birthright, and at the same time not getting the respect because he got where he is due to that family connection, so it’s both a blessing and a curse. “We gave you everything. We gave you your name”
Don is a walking breathing example of this unhappiness, because he came from nothing and used someone else’s name to get his start, but he ruthlessly used this leg up to make himself into everything he was, which far surpassed anything Campbell had despite being old money. It drives him crazy that no one cares about Dons past, and no one cares about his families past. At the end of the day they care about what value you bring and what you do with the opportunities given to you. I think through most of the series he’s constantly shooting himself in the foot by trying to either compete or one up Don. He tries writing copy in season 1, he sleeps with his secretary in episode 1, he aims to get Don fired multiple times, he eventually goes to California to seek the same happiness Don is chasing, even cheats on his wife and leaves her for a younger thing, and ultimately after begrudging respecting Don and seeing his true nature over the course of the season, he realizes what he’s been chasing is entirely vapid and empty and gets Trudy back to chase true happiness.
Really one of the best arcs of the show and something that ages better with each rewatch of the show
Don is a walking breathing example of this unhappiness, because he came from nothing and used someone else’s name to get his start, but he ruthlessly used this leg up to make himself into everything he was, which far surpassed anything Campbell had despite being old money. It drives him crazy that no one cares about Dons past, and no one cares about his families past. At the end of the day they care about what value you bring and what you do with the opportunities given to you. I think through most of the series he’s constantly shooting himself in the foot by trying to either compete or one up Don. He tries writing copy in season 1, he sleeps with his secretary in episode 1, he aims to get Don fired multiple times, he eventually goes to California to seek the same happiness Don is chasing, even cheats on his wife and leaves her for a younger thing, and ultimately after begrudging respecting Don and seeing his true nature over the course of the season, he realizes what he’s been chasing is entirely vapid and empty and gets Trudy back to chase true happiness.
Really one of the best arcs of the show and something that ages better with each rewatch of the show
Posted on 8/13/26 at 1:17 pm to wildtigercat93
There's a lot of reasons to dislike Pete throughout the show and one that I heard from a lot of MM fans was how he raped or at the very least severely pressured the German au pair to sleep with him. I read an interview with him a while back where Kartheiser said the whole scene has the wrong vibe, the actress playing the German girl wouldn't reciprocate, no matter how many takes they did. She was supposed to be into it, so that whole thing comes off looking worse for Pete than it should have.
Posted on 8/13/26 at 4:57 pm to grsharky
"that's because he thinks you're a homo"
"the king ORDERED IT!"
"L.A. is great... i have an apartment by the tar pits"
"I'm using all of my energy PUTTING MY FOOT DOWN"
Bert: "I think I'll have a drink. Do you have any Brandy?.. What about Spirits of Elderflower?"
Pete: "no.. and I don't have any laudanum either"
"the king ORDERED IT!"
"L.A. is great... i have an apartment by the tar pits"
"I'm using all of my energy PUTTING MY FOOT DOWN"
Bert: "I think I'll have a drink. Do you have any Brandy?.. What about Spirits of Elderflower?"
Pete: "no.. and I don't have any laudanum either"
This post was edited on 8/13/26 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 8/13/26 at 8:56 pm to LasVegasTiger
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Honestly, Pete might be my favorite character
Most underrated character in the show by far
Posted on 8/13/26 at 10:26 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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Can’t remember the name. The guy that leaves to run off in the sunset with Lainey Wilson.
Good call. Ryan score name Ian Bohen.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 3:20 pm to Havoc
On Season 1 Episode 10.
Man, the set of twins Roger picked out of the casting lineup are not attractive whatsoever. Woof.
Man, the set of twins Roger picked out of the casting lineup are not attractive whatsoever. Woof.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 3:30 pm to TideSaint
Man, Betty was a dime. (I'm blocking off Fat Betty).
Jane Siegel too.
Jane Siegel too.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 3:57 pm to LasVegasTiger
Agree on both, I always throw in Hildy as the low key hottie of the show.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 4:10 pm to LasVegasTiger
And yet I can't find anyone who really compares to Joy - personality and looks factoring in the equation..
"Why would you deny yourself something you want?"
"Why would you deny yourself something you want?"
Posted on 8/19/26 at 8:28 pm to TideSaint
quote:there are your average losers, and then this type of loser
Started a Mad Men rewatch
Posted on 8/19/26 at 8:35 pm to BigAppleTiger
Yea, she was top shelf.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 1:05 am to wildtigercat93
The beauty of Mad Men is that after rewatching, my opinions on the main characters almost always change from a previous viewing.
I used to hate Pete Campbell and now he's someone I find cheering for throughout the series. Joan has been a rollercoaster for me, sometimes understanding her and sometimes thinking she's a hypocrite. Roger is Roger. Don always peels back a new layer for me as well.
I used to hate Pete Campbell and now he's someone I find cheering for throughout the series. Joan has been a rollercoaster for me, sometimes understanding her and sometimes thinking she's a hypocrite. Roger is Roger. Don always peels back a new layer for me as well.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 6:19 am to TheNameIsDalton
I didn’t watch mad men on its original showing. I watched it about 15 years ago on Netflix and watched multiple episodes everyday
I immediately loved Pete. When I finished the show and came to look at the threads on here that were live from when the show aired, I was shocked Pete was hated
I think watching Pete once a week clearly left a different feel than watching episodes in bunches
I immediately loved Pete. When I finished the show and came to look at the threads on here that were live from when the show aired, I was shocked Pete was hated
I think watching Pete once a week clearly left a different feel than watching episodes in bunches
Posted on 8/20/26 at 8:43 am to lsupride87
I love the conversations that were had about his honeymoon. Pete says something to Don like "I really missed you Don" and Don says something like "Well it must not have been much of a honeymoon then". ...and when his coworkers loaded his office with a Chinese family when he returned. ...Too funny
My brother and I spoke recently about how the viewer easily forgives Don upon first and second watches, but don’t extend that same clemency to Pete. My whole first time watching I thought Pete was insufferable. Watching again, it’s like he’s not that bad.
My brother and I spoke recently about how the viewer easily forgives Don upon first and second watches, but don’t extend that same clemency to Pete. My whole first time watching I thought Pete was insufferable. Watching again, it’s like he’s not that bad.
This post was edited on 8/20/26 at 8:46 am
Posted on 8/20/26 at 9:11 am to hogcard1964
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how the viewer easily forgives Don upon first and second watches
The similarities with Don and Tony Soprano are obvious outside of murder and thievery.
Both had incredibly damaging childhoods and oddly have a weird level of principle and integrity in some capacity. Both have massive failures as parents and setting an example for their kids but also demonstrate, at times, legit parental instincts and care for their children.
Don seems to show more genuine self reflection but it never really pans out into genuine behavior changes.
Don is the most perplexing character to me. Pete is fine, an interesting character but had every advantage to not make most of the choices he made, which generally boil down to entitlement and insecurity.
Don's always felt much more complex to me aside from the fact that both of them could have been stronger men and not made terrible choices consistently along the way. Tony on the other hand, was doomed from birth and the cesspool environment he was stuck in.
Breaking the cycle is difficult and takes unique character which none of them were able to ever really demonstrate aside from Pete a little bit at the end.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 10:16 am to TideSaint
One thing that you do not get with streaming are the awesome previews that Weiner was contractually obligated to provide (against his wishes). Every week we'd get this hodgepodge of non-sequitur clips that gave zero information of what was coming next.
AMC had to run promos with clips of, "He said what?" "I have to go." "We'll discuss this later." "Get rid of him" "That hurts."...
AMC had to run promos with clips of, "He said what?" "I have to go." "We'll discuss this later." "Get rid of him" "That hurts."...
Posted on 8/20/26 at 11:40 am to TheNameIsDalton
I also enjoy how at the start, Harry Crane came off as a normal guy , then by the end, dude is full on creep.
I always laugh when he comes in to late on a meeting about partnership and selling and Roger just says "You're to late, get out"
I always laugh when he comes in to late on a meeting about partnership and selling and Roger just says "You're to late, get out"
Posted on 8/20/26 at 12:10 pm to LasVegasTiger
quote:He did try to help Kinsey get out of the Krishna cult. Well, sort of.
I also enjoy how at the start, Harry Crane came off as a normal guy , then by the end, dude is full on creep.
Him pressuring Don's ex-wife for sex to get his "help" in Hollywood cemented his creep status.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 3:38 pm to LasVegasTiger
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I also enjoy how at the start, Harry Crane came off as a normal guy , then by the end, dude is full on creep.
I always laugh when he comes in to late on a meeting about partnership and selling and Roger just says "You're to late, get out"
I like the conversation Harry has with Roger about giving up his office to Pete.
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