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re: Star Wars: TROS - Non spoiler reviews and box office watch - Passes 500 mil, domestically

Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:20 pm to
Posted by DVA Tailgater
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Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:20 pm to
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Kennedy said she plans to make key decisions about the direction of the franchise in the coming weeks. But some things she already knows. While the “Skywalker” saga is ending, the company won’t abandon the characters created in the most recent trilogy. Additionally, she said, the plan is to move beyond trilogies, which can be restricting. “I think it gives us a more open-ended view of storytelling and doesn’t lock us into this three-act structure,” she said. “We’re not going to have some finite number and fit it into a box. We’re really going to let the story dictate that.”


I mean, it’s not like they treated 7, 8 & 9 like a trilogy....
Posted by wareaglepete
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Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:56 pm to
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Kennedy said she plans to make key decisions about the direction of the franchise in the coming weeks. But some things she already knows. While the “Skywalker” saga is ending, the company won’t abandon the characters created in the most recent trilogy.


They are failing with most of the big picture and failing to recognize their areas of success with SW. I think most people will agree that the most popular SW have been the original trilogy and those things which are most closely related to it, Rogue One and Mandalorian.
The sequels are set out in the future and have new characters that Disney created and have not done service to the original characters. Most don't like it.
The prequels were well before the original trilogy and were not well received by most.
Rogue One and Mandalorian are so close to the original trilogy and evoke so many things from the original trilogy that they are more popular. You would think someone at Disney would figure this out.
That Walmarts are filled with toys for ROS and there is not a Baby Yoda toy to be found speaks to how dumb they are.
Posted by Bankshot
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Posted on 12/16/19 at 1:35 pm to
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I'll go with 600 mil, domestic and foreign, for a total just above 1.2 billion.


If the leaks are true (and I've read them) it might barely make $1 billion world wide. This movie, and pretty much every movie, needs a lot of folks going to see it multiple times to reach $1 billion.

I'm going to see it. But, if the leaks are true, it will be the only time I see it in the theater. If other folks are doing the same thing, it will do worse than TLJ, at least domestically. Just as an aside, I saw TFA in the theater more than twice and TLJ twice (once being at the dollar theater).

Kathleen Kennedy was a really bad fit for Star Wars from the get go. I know she had experience on ET and the Indiana Jones franchise, but she never had experience in helping produce any of the Original Trilogy or even the Prequel Trilogy films.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/16/19 at 1:52 pm to
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They are failing with most of the big picture and failing to recognize their areas of success with SW. I think most people will agree that the most popular SW have been the original trilogy and those things which are most closely related to it, Rogue One and Mandalorian. The sequels are set out in the future and have new characters that Disney created and have not done service to the original characters. Most don't like it. The prequels were well before the original trilogy and were not well received by most.


How do you explain Solo then? I don't think relying on nostalgia and continuing to whore out more original trilogy content is the answer. Whether it's set in the Old Republic era, the PT era, the OT era, or the sequel era, I think people just want good movies that tell a story with overarching vision along with memorable, relatable characters.

The sequel trilogy was poorly thought out from the very beginning and the new characters they've centered this trilogy around just haven't been given anything to really sink their teeth into. They also barely have any screentime together.
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 12/16/19 at 2:31 pm to
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Kennedy said she plans to make key decisions about the direction of the franchise in the coming weeks. But some things she already knows. While the “Skywalker” saga is ending, the company won’t abandon the characters created in the most recent trilogy. Additionally, she said, the plan is to move beyond trilogies, which can be restricting.


I can't wait for the Rose origin movie!!!
Posted by BlackAdam
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Posted on 12/16/19 at 2:35 pm to
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How do you explain Solo then?


That is easy. The Last Jedi hangover. People, even OT fans were not going to see it because TLJ was so horrid.

Solo was not terrible. If it had been more insulated from the The Last Jedi it would have done better.
This post was edited on 12/16/19 at 2:37 pm
Posted by VermilionTiger
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Posted on 12/16/19 at 2:37 pm to
I didn’t watch Solo solely because of TLJ. I enjoyed the hell out of Rogue One and thought TFA set up an interesting plot for the trilogy

I ignored all reviews and spoilers of TLJ and allowed myself to form my own opinion.. and TLJ sucked arse.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 12/16/19 at 2:37 pm to
Posted by BulldogXero
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Posted on 12/16/19 at 2:42 pm to
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That is easy. The Last Jedi hangover. People, even OT fans were not going to see it because TLJ was so horrid. Solo was not terrible. If it had been more insulated from the The Last Jedi it would have done better.


I don't think the Last Jedi backlash hurt Solo all that much. It was the production issues and bad critical reception combined with movie going audiences just being incredibly uninterested in a Han Solo origin story.

I can think of about one million stories to tell in the Star Wars universe before an origin story for Han Solo. Nevermind the virtually impossible task of recasting Han and Lando meant that this project was screwed from the very start.



Posted by Cs
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Posted on 12/16/19 at 2:46 pm to
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I can't wait for the Rose origin movie!!!


More likely it will be a Disney+ series.

They're already doing one for Cassian.
Posted by stapuffmarshy
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Posted on 12/16/19 at 2:49 pm to
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the Rose origin movie


The Rise of Armpit Hair and Unshaven Legs
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 12/16/19 at 2:52 pm to
Nolan's new film will have a 6 min prologue in select IMAX theaters

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Anton Volkov
@antovolk

happy TENET prologue/possible new trailer week everyone
Posted by meeple
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Posted on 12/16/19 at 2:56 pm to
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don't think the Last Jedi backlash hurt Solo all that much. It was the production issues and bad critical reception combined with movie going audiences just being incredibly uninterested in a Han Solo origin story.

I stayed home because of TLJ. Although I was meh for a Han story I would have seen it in the theater if not for TLJ
This post was edited on 12/16/19 at 2:57 pm
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 12/16/19 at 3:06 pm to
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I don't think the Last Jedi backlash hurt Solo all that much.


You are very wrong. Scholarly articles have been published in academic journals about this. Solo was very hurt by TLJ backlash.

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It was the production issues and bad critical reception combined with movie going audiences just being incredibly uninterested in a Han Solo origin story.


Movie goers don't care about critical reception. Many of the highest grossing films of all time were critically panned. Several of them were received much more poorly than Solo. And production issues? Come on. Most folks arent reading the trades and stressing over re-shoots, certainly not to the extent that it effects what they see.

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can think of about one million stories to tell in the Star Wars universe before an origin story for Han Solo.


Maybe for the Star Wars EU nerds, but the vast majority of the public only knows the movies. It should have been hard to screw up a Han Solo story featuring so many elements even the Star Wars novice would recognize.

And they absolutely nailed the Lando re-cast.
This post was edited on 12/16/19 at 3:12 pm
Posted by YumYum Sauce
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Posted on 12/16/19 at 3:08 pm to
I never watched Solo because of how bad TLJ was.


It's been on streaming for a long time and i've regularly scrolled past.
Posted by kingbob
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/16/19 at 3:16 pm to
I also skipped seeing solo in theaters and waited to watch it until it was out on streaming platforms. It was okay. I give it a 3/5, as opposed to Rogue One which is probably a 4.5/5
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 12/16/19 at 3:29 pm to
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I can think of about one million stories to tell in the Star Wars universe before an origin story for Han Solo.


Better than the Cassian Andor spinoff series we are getting. Like seriously wtf lol
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 12/16/19 at 3:34 pm to
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Mark HoHoHoHamill
@HamillHimself

The 1st public screening of #TheRiseOfSkywalker takes place tonight in Los Angeles. I know I can't stop you from writing about it on social media, but I CAN beg you to please, Please, PLEASE avoid any SPOILERS!!! Thanking you all in advance, Mar?? #MayTheShushBeWithYou
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 12/16/19 at 3:39 pm to
They didn't want baby Yoda to leak so no manufacturers saw it before the viewer did.

Crazy and will cost them millions in lost revenue but preserved a leak.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 12/16/19 at 4:03 pm to
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First reactions to #TheRiseOfSkywalker drop at 10pm PST be prepared
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