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Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:57 am to Mystery
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This weekend will be interesting.
I think this weekend will show how well it winds up doing in terms of staying power.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:01 am to RLDSC FAN
I watched TROS last week.. I liked it as far as entertainment goes. It was worth the movie ticket. But there are some headscratching moments for sure, and the first half is just a mad rush job of retcon. Once JJ undid TLJ's shite sandwich as much as he could, it was a good movie.
I think ultimately I consider the sequel trilogy a failure, and it's Disney's fault. From what I've heard and read, Disney writers didn't really even have a real outline of how they wanted the arcs to go. On top of that, selecting multiple directors for a trilogy was begging for disappointment. These guys are basically given no strong direction from writing and have to write in their own story - which can work well if you get the right director and team working the whole trilogy - and they have differing opinions on how to handle the movies... you wind up with a very disjointed trilogy and a story that makes little sense.
The whole thing was set up for failure.
I think ultimately I consider the sequel trilogy a failure, and it's Disney's fault. From what I've heard and read, Disney writers didn't really even have a real outline of how they wanted the arcs to go. On top of that, selecting multiple directors for a trilogy was begging for disappointment. These guys are basically given no strong direction from writing and have to write in their own story - which can work well if you get the right director and team working the whole trilogy - and they have differing opinions on how to handle the movies... you wind up with a very disjointed trilogy and a story that makes little sense.
The whole thing was set up for failure.
This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 10:06 am
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:41 am to Hulkklogan
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Gitesh Pandya
#StarWarsRiseofSkywalker finished up its 2nd full week of release with worldwide #boxoffice of $840M. THU grosses and new totals below: Domestic: $9.2M/$417M Intl: $15.1M/$423M Global: $24.3M/$840M
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:49 am to RLDSC FAN
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I’ll go with 36 mil
I feel like that's a decent median. Less would disappoint, more would be a bonus.
About 36 would put them in the 915-920 million range entering week 3 weekdays, which is more of the same not disappointing/not great result.
This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 11:50 am
Posted on 1/3/20 at 1:25 pm to Rep520
Not sure how you can keep toting that line.
School is about to start back up. This line is about to flatten out, and with international numbers being what they are, I just don't see how you are being honest.
Yes, this film will make a billion.
Yes, it will be the first billion dollar film to be considered a disappointment.
But it still is.
The end to this Star Wars Trilogy will be tough to swallow for Disney and it's shareholders. It could have done so much.
School is about to start back up. This line is about to flatten out, and with international numbers being what they are, I just don't see how you are being honest.
Yes, this film will make a billion.
Yes, it will be the first billion dollar film to be considered a disappointment.
But it still is.
The end to this Star Wars Trilogy will be tough to swallow for Disney and it's shareholders. It could have done so much.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 1:40 pm to Mystery
The key when looking at this is how the holidays fell for each.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 2:49 pm to Mystery
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Not sure how you can keep toting that line.
The last thing I said was I thought it would do 1.15 to 1.35 bil. On your chart, Rogue One barely cracked a bil and TLJ was 1.31 bil.
My projection has it likely finishing below TLJ, and barring a turnaround, that's what I think. It's also outperforming Rogue One. If ROS winds up halfway between TLJ and RO, it's basically 1.15 bil, which is in my range.
Sorry, I don't think that's bad after the massive TLJ backlash and Solo not even doing 400 mil worldwide. 1.15 wouldn't be incredible, but it's a number I think Disney would be ok with after a few years of SW having big issues.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 3:06 pm to Mystery
The biggest missed opportunity is that this was end of a 40 year plus saga. There was so much material that could have been used and they decided this trilogy was going to go in a different direction. Avengers : Endgame was the final piece to a 10 year saga and it crushed everything and made the most money. Star Wars UF done correctly could have surpassed Avengers : Endgame but Disney was too occupied with destroying characters than making something good.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 3:46 pm to Mystery
Rogue One was so dang good. That had to have exceeded there expectations. It seemed like it was just considered a filler film to get you ready for TLJ and it ended up being the best out of the last 5.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 5:15 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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Rogue One was so dang good. That had to have exceeded there expectations. It seemed like it was just considered a filler film to get you ready for TLJ and it ended up being the best out of the last 5.
It really was the best out of the last 8 SW films!
The Mandalorian is the only thing since the OT that is as good as R.O.!
Posted on 1/3/20 at 5:31 pm to lsufan9193969700
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It really was the best out of the last 8 SW films!
For all the disagreements in this thread, I agreee with this totally.
Rogue One was the best since the original trilogy. I might be tempted to put it over Return of the Jedi, but nostalgia won't let me.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 5:43 pm to MasterKnight
Even if TLJ wasn’t a disaster and TRoS was great, it still wouldn’t have bested Endgame for one reason: China.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 5:56 pm to TheeRealCarolina
Correct. China gives no fricks about Star Wars. I don’t know if Disney will ever get that turned around.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 7:29 pm to Rep520
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It really was the best out of the last 8 SW films!
For all the disagreements in this thread, I agreee with this totally.
Rogue One was the best since the original trilogy. I might be tempted to put it over Return of the Jedi, but nostalgia won't let me.
Same!
Posted on 1/3/20 at 8:53 pm to Mystery
I did my part to make sure TROS finishes below TLJ by seeing TLJ and not seeing TROS.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:03 pm to The Boat
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I did my part to make sure TROS finishes below TLJ by seeing TLJ and not seeing TROS.
I'm seeing it a 4th time Tuesday with my kid! I've got your slack!
Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:50 pm to RLDSC FAN
The window for making China care about Star Wars was the start of this trilogy. But it just wasn't close to the quality of competing Marvel films. Neither were they pure action films like F&F or Transformers. Politics is parochial not universal and I think too much of it affected the characters and story that developed.
If they (Disney) had made new storylines that were designed to entertain all audiences with consistent likable characters and good stories that would been a good thing. But they went another direction.
Anyway I could have potentially enjoyed Star Wars remade into a space martial arts series. Having light sabers added to force users flying, jumping, spinning, etc. with preternatural ability would have been a fun extension of previous films for at least the western audiences. To be convincing they should have brought in some real Chinese talent to improve the fight sequences.
If they (Disney) had made new storylines that were designed to entertain all audiences with consistent likable characters and good stories that would been a good thing. But they went another direction.
Anyway I could have potentially enjoyed Star Wars remade into a space martial arts series. Having light sabers added to force users flying, jumping, spinning, etc. with preternatural ability would have been a fun extension of previous films for at least the western audiences. To be convincing they should have brought in some real Chinese talent to improve the fight sequences.
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