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re: Star Wars: TROS - Non spoiler reviews and box office watch - Passes 500 mil, domestically
Posted on 12/17/19 at 1:16 pm to tiggerthetooth
Posted on 12/17/19 at 1:16 pm to tiggerthetooth
One of the barstool guys
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Jeff D LOWE
@JeffDLowe
Here are my #StarWars thoughts:
#TheRiseOfSkywalker is a lot to take in. It's exhausting (in good and bad ways). Also a whole lot of awesome Star Wars. As a big fan? I loved it, though. Satisfying and had me smiling throughout.
Will big fans love it? Not sure, to be honest.
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 1:22 pm to RLDSC FAN
Rian Johnson article
LINK
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Rian Johnson Says Catering to Fans, Rather Than Challenging Them, Is a ‘Mistake’
“I think approaching any creative process with [making fandoms happy] would be a mistake that would lead to probably the exact opposite result,” Johnson said. “Even my experience as a fan, you know if I’m coming into something, even if it’s something that I think I want, if I see exactly what I think I want on the screen, it’s like ‘oh, okay,’ it might make me smile and make me feel neutral about the thing and I won’t really think about it afterwards, but that’s not really going to satisfy me.”
Johnson added, “I want to be shocked, I want to be surprised, I want to be thrown off-guard, I want to have things recontextualized, I want to be challenged as a fan when I sit down in the theater…What I’m aiming for every time I sit down in a theater is to have the experience [I had] with ‘Empire Strikes Back,’ something that’s emotionally resonant and feels like it connects up and makes sense and really gets to the heart of what this thing is and in a way that I never could have seen coming.”
LINK
Posted on 12/17/19 at 1:24 pm to RLDSC FAN
Rian can ingest a satchel of Richards.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 1:26 pm to RLDSC FAN
The problem with Rian is that he doesn’t understand the difference between shocking someone with great storytelling and “subverting expectations” simply to do it.
I still think the most shocking thing would have been Rey taking Kylo’s hand at the end and joining him.
It would have been the twist not seen in any of the movies.
The resistance would have felt completely hopeless and defeated.
Anakin goes bad.
Luke resists the dark side.
Rey joins the dark side then rejects it and faces off with Kylo over it.
It would have made for a massive twist and allowed for actual conflict in the 3rd movie.
But, they couldn’t have the heroine go “bad”.
I still think the most shocking thing would have been Rey taking Kylo’s hand at the end and joining him.
It would have been the twist not seen in any of the movies.
The resistance would have felt completely hopeless and defeated.
Anakin goes bad.
Luke resists the dark side.
Rey joins the dark side then rejects it and faces off with Kylo over it.
It would have made for a massive twist and allowed for actual conflict in the 3rd movie.
But, they couldn’t have the heroine go “bad”.
This post was edited on 12/17/19 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 12/17/19 at 1:35 pm to RLDSC FAN
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Kyle Buchanan
@kylebuchanan
RISE OF SKYWALKER could only have been ruder to Rian Johnson if they had motion-smoothed it
Good, frick that soy-drinking piece of shite that absolutely ruined Star Wars: The Last Jedi.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 1:44 pm to HubbaBubba
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Good, frick that soy-drinking piece of shite that absolutely ruined Star Wars: The Last Jedi
The funny part is that they are pissed at JJ for "ruining" Rian's vision while completely glossing over the fact that The Last Jedi was basically telling JJ that The Force Awakens and his vision were total shite.
Where was the criticism from these critics towards Rian for flipping JJ the double bird?
Posted on 12/17/19 at 1:47 pm to Cs
Yikes!
Posted on 12/17/19 at 1:56 pm to RLDSC FAN
Yea, these are bad, bad signs.
Rian left JJ in an unsalvageable position.
Rian left JJ in an unsalvageable position.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 2:00 pm to Scruffy
Disney has to be sweating right now over opening weekend.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 2:02 pm to RLDSC FAN
Good.
I hope that there is a reception on par with Solo.
Not that it would ever do that poorly, but I’m hoping for a significant undershoot.
I will never understand the responses that Disney gave to the Star Wars fan base after TLJ, basically telling them to “frick off”.
I guess I just don’t understand business.
I hope that there is a reception on par with Solo.
Not that it would ever do that poorly, but I’m hoping for a significant undershoot.
I will never understand the responses that Disney gave to the Star Wars fan base after TLJ, basically telling them to “frick off”.
I guess I just don’t understand business.
This post was edited on 12/17/19 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 12/17/19 at 2:03 pm to Scruffy
Solo was a good movie and I hope we get a Disney show out of it.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 2:04 pm to The Godfather
Imagine being 78 years old and being “super nervous” over a movie.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 2:05 pm to RLDSC FAN
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I want to be shocked, I want to be surprised, I want to be thrown off-guard,
dude seems to still confuse this with good story telling. Things being unexpected for the sole purpose of "subverting expectations" does not make it actually good.
"yeah I was surprised he went that route because it was really fricking stupid"
This post was edited on 12/17/19 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 12/17/19 at 2:05 pm to RLDSC FAN
I think they may be confident in opening weekend but if this movie is pissing everybody off then this movie having legs is a legit concern.
For the critics that are pissed that JJ isn't keeping Rian's vision, what did they expect? What did Rian leave him with?
For the critics that are pissed that JJ isn't keeping Rian's vision, what did they expect? What did Rian leave him with?
Posted on 12/17/19 at 2:06 pm to Maus
quote:It had some moronic parts.
Solo was a good movie and I hope we get a Disney show out of it.
The main one being the completely annoying “free the robots” droid.
Cringed when that character was on screen.
Otherwise, I agree, the movie was not terrible.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 2:08 pm to RLDSC FAN
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Johnson added, “I want to be shocked, I want to be surprised, I want to be thrown off-guard, I want to have things recontextualized, I want to be challenged as a fan when I sit down in the theater…What I’m aiming for every time I sit down in a theater is to have the experience [I had] with ‘Empire Strikes Back,’ something that’s emotionally resonant and feels like it connects up and makes sense and really gets to the heart of what this thing is and in a way that I never could have seen coming.”
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Did he SEE Empire Strikes Back?
It wasn't shocking except that the good guys are losing. Trilogies weren't very common back then, ESPECIALLY ones that were a solid story arc from start to finish. Seeing the good guys lose in a movie was shocking for the time; the closest to a modern equivalent was Infinity War (and as awesome a movie as that was, no one thought for 5 seconds after it was over that Black Panther and Spider-Man, a combined 2-3 billion dollars worth of franchise, were going to stay dead).
TLJ didn't actually do any of that. There are the occasional decent scenes, but nothing that really "shocked" or "surprised" me, other than me wondering why on earth they're on that casino planet. Or WHY people are on that planet playing games, considering what's going on.
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