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re: Star Wars: TFA -Official Discussion Thread - Spoilers
Posted on 12/20/15 at 6:01 pm to MasCervezas
Posted on 12/20/15 at 6:01 pm to MasCervezas
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I thought the same thing. That maneuver Rey did so Finn could get the shot...
Yeah that was pretty cool. So how about no one showing love to BB-8? He/She had some of the best moments in the movie and I feel like no one is acknowledging that.
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Posted on 12/20/15 at 6:02 pm to blueboy
One line that I didn't like:
"He had too much Vader in him"
Sounded too much like Harvey Updyke saying "I've got too much Bama in me"
"He had too much Vader in him"
Sounded too much like Harvey Updyke saying "I've got too much Bama in me"
This post was edited on 12/20/15 at 6:03 pm
Posted on 12/20/15 at 6:04 pm to ReturnoftheMuschamp
quote:maybe he was General Dodonna, retired and attempting to stay away from it all? He seemed to carry a lot of gravitas.
Any insight to who the old man that Ren killed in the village was? He knew who Ren really was
No one important. He was a follower of the Jedi and all that they stood for before the Empire took over, but he's not Force Sensitive. Probably a former Rebellion soldier too.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 6:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
?? The conflict is the whole story of Star Wars. We don't need to hear more about the force. As unoriginal as TFA is, to go over all that again would be ridiculous.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 6:11 pm to JuiceTerry
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As unoriginal as TFA is, to go over all that again would be ridiculous.
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then why even have jedi/sith?
Posted on 12/20/15 at 6:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
Are you really saying that 95% of people who liked this movie aren't seeing reality?
Posted on 12/20/15 at 6:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
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then why even have jedi/sith?
You and he are arguing two different points. Rey will be trained in the Force, but I doubt they have Luke on screen explaining what is is (Midi-chlorians and such). Instead we'll see him training her how to use, what she can do, testing her limits, etc.
Point is, we don't need a history lesson on it on screen.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 6:18 pm to ell_13
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Are you really saying that 95% of people who liked this movie aren't seeing reality?
i think there are 2 issues at work
1. expectations have been lowered SO much that "not completely shitty like the prequels" is the dividing line
2. nostalgia creates emotional thinking. this movie had a ton of forced nostalgia
i think people are just trying to avoid admitting #1 in as blatant of terms and #2 will fade with time and opinions will regress to the mean
Posted on 12/20/15 at 6:21 pm to ReturnoftheMuschamp
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Instead we'll see him training her how to use, what she can do, testing her limits, etc.
Point is, we don't need a history lesson on it on screen.
mastery of the force is mastery of internal states (namely emotions). that means the same "history lesson" is necessary for all jedi. it's a religion/philosophy at the heart of the entire conflict in this universe. i don't see how you just skip over the religion/philosophy and expect to maintain the same universe as the OT
learning to levitate an X-wing isn't important. gaining the confidence to become nothing within the force so that the force lifts the X-wing is important. how do you show a "training" without showing the lessons?
This post was edited on 12/20/15 at 6:23 pm
Posted on 12/20/15 at 6:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
Except that 18-24 year olds have given it an A+. No nostalgia or sour taste for the majority of them. My nephew is 13 and thought it was amazing. My theater was full of teenagers many of whom I heard saying they would be seeing it again. Many well known critics have said this was a good film. Good acting. Good directing. A story that pulls major themes from the OT which they were fine/happy with.
All you and others can say at this point is, "you'll see!" Which is a terribly weak leg to stand on.
All you and others can say at this point is, "you'll see!" Which is a terribly weak leg to stand on.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 6:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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1. expectations have been lowered SO much that "not completely shitty like the prequels" is the dividing line
Except the prequels weren't shitty movies, at least not in my opinion. They were mediocre but are still watchable. And Revenge of the Sith was actually a good movie.
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2. nostalgia creates emotional thinking. this movie had a ton of forced nostalgia
Jurassic World also had a ton of forced nostalgia. That movie received more of a mixed reaction from fans and critics alike than The Force Awakens did.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 6:23 pm to ell_13
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All you and others can say at this point is, "you'll see!"
well, to be fair, what i keep hearing over and over gain is "you'll see" by those who are defending it, claiming this was a necessary evil to get the taste of the prequels out of our mouths and to establish confidence in the next 2 movies
Posted on 12/20/15 at 6:23 pm to RollTide1987
1) the prequels were shite
2) Agreed, there are no "mixed reactions" with TFA
2) Agreed, there are no "mixed reactions" with TFA
This post was edited on 12/20/15 at 6:26 pm
Posted on 12/20/15 at 6:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
I've never heard or seen "a necessary evil" term used. I've seen people say this is what was needed/wanted. How is that not relevant or a good thing?
Posted on 12/20/15 at 6:25 pm to RollTide1987
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Except the prequels weren't shitty movies,
Bruh
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They were mediocre but are still watchable.
Attack of the Clones is the worst movie i've ever seen in a movie theater (other than the first 5 minutes of MK: Annihilation)
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Jurassic World also had a ton of forced nostalgia. That movie received more of a mixed reaction from fans and critics alike than The Force Awakens did.
it hasn't been 30 years since a good Jurassic Park movie
Posted on 12/20/15 at 6:26 pm to MasCervezas
quote:No you didn't.
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quote:I didn't care for it. This is the place for discussion. It's not a shtick.
And frick you and your shtick
Posted on 12/20/15 at 6:27 pm to blueboy
Discussion? You?
Posted on 12/20/15 at 6:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
What was the grave Luke stood beside at the end of TFA?
His wife perhaps? Vader' grave? His son/daughter?
His wife perhaps? Vader' grave? His son/daughter?
Posted on 12/20/15 at 6:30 pm to ell_13
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I've seen people say this is what was needed/wanted. How is that not relevant or a good thing?
remaking episode 4 and relying on so much forced appearances of old characters/items was necessary for the public's confidence in the new movies. go read how OML describes it. he makes a fair point that i don't disagree with. it's needed for that reason. and it's wanted by fanboys
is that an emotional victory? yes
but does that make it objectively good? no
it wasn't terrible. it was mediocre. it had some good and lots of bad. it did its job as a piece in a larger picture, which gets credit
but to compare it to a contemporary: guardians of the galaxy blows this movie away, and that's coming from a star wars fanboy who is nowhere close to being a marvel fanboy
Posted on 12/20/15 at 6:31 pm to Scoob
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maybe he was General Dodonna, retired and attempting to stay away from it all? He seemed to carry a lot of gravitas.
To me he was the key to everything, and we'll learn more about him in the sequels.
It seems like he knows Luke, he knows Rey, he knows what Ren did to Luke's order, and he's responsible for getting Rey to Jakku.
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