re: Star Wars: TFA -Official Discussion Thread - Spoilers

I would not say this movie is close to as good as GotG. But I still think it's an objectively good movie on its own. I enjoyed the early scenes outside of Fin. The monsters on Han's freighter were a disappointment. But from then on the movie got stronger and stronger. A couple plot holes here and there. But I was entertained and intrigued and I left wanting more. Maybe I'm too easily satisfied... Ignorance is bliss?

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I enjoyed the early scenes outside of Fin. The monsters on Han's freighter were a disappointment. But from then on the movie got stronger and stronger.

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i think the early portion had some terrible stuff, apexing with the gangsters on the MF

it got stronger after that, especially if you ignore all the forced bullshite (like C3PO and R2D2). there was a very solid 20-30 minutes or so, until they started setting up the final battle and then had the final battle and that was all meh (best summarized with "it's not the death star. IT'S BIGGER!")

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We, the audience, don't need to hear Yoda's monologue again.

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but that has to all be established again

kylo v. reyson bourne is going to be a battle of those concepts again, and their development and internal conflict requires that discussion

how do you create that conflict without "hearing Yoda's monologue" ?

he literally performed no role other than nostalgia

same with R2D2 (i know he had part of the map, but that was literally contrived and could have been left out and there would be no plot issue)

the biggest issue with the beginning half or so was that it was so disjointed and jumpy. nothing was established it was just one forced situation where they go somewhere, to have bad guys show up and shoot, so they run away and go somewhere else, only to have bad guys show up and shoot, so they run away and go somewhere else...

and so on, and so forth

it was just so stupid. it completely prevented me from being able to absorb the movie or feel its pacing. when people say stuff like "you just try to find stuff wrong" that's wrong. when shite like that happens it takes me out of the movie and i am a person watching a movie in a theater instead of being immersed in the movie itself

That's how the OT was. Bad guys here... Run away. Bad guys here... Run away.

But that's what happens what you have what the other side wants. They come looking for you. Not sure why that's a problem plot wise.

Dude...........

Still?

For frick's sake.

You are spinning.

I'd like to inject an actual fan discussion if I could possibly get a word in between these to collosal assholes running (ruining) this thread:

Anyone else catch the voices of Obi Wan (Guiness and McGregor) as well as Yoda in Rey's saber vision? I missed that first watch.

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the biggest issue with the beginning half or so was that it was so disjointed and jumpy. nothing was established it was just one forced situation where they go somewhere, to have bad guys show up and shoot, so they run away and go somewhere else, only to have bad guys show up and shoot, so they run away and go somewhere else...

and so on, and so forth

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It sounds to me like you've just decided you don't want to like the movie so you will pick it apart in any way possible.

Here, let me do it for Empire Strikes Back:

How did the entire Hoth segment in Empire Strikes back serve to further the plot in any way - including the entire segment where Luke was knocked unconcious by and captured by a Wampa? How did the asteroid field scene, including the hiding and escaping serve to further the plot in any way?

Hmm, all of that stuff seems like filler to me. Maybe they were included to create opportunities for action sequences, you know like the stuff you're complaining about.

If you really think about it, there's only 2 sequences which truly matter in Empire and that's the Yoda sequences (debateable actually, since Luke never completes his training), and the cloud city scenes.

I love Empire, it's one of my favorite movies of all time. I can make that movie sound like complete shite just like anyone can make TFA sound like complete shite.

My issue is that you are posting so much this isn't even a thread any more. It is a SlowFlowPro blog. Your points are valid but you are being obnoxious as shite. Every page is just you dragging nuts every other post. It's ridiculous.

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mastery of the force is mastery of internal states (namely emotions). that means the same "history lesson" is necessary for all jedi. it's a religion/philosophy at the heart of the entire conflict in this universe. i don't see how you just skip over the religion/philosophy and expect to maintain the same universe as the OT

learning to levitate an X-wing isn't important. gaining the confidence to become nothing within the force so that the force lifts the X-wing is important. how do you show a "training" without showing the lessons?

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Either you didn't read my post or you didn't understand it. Which is it?