re: Star Wars: TFA -Official Discussion Thread - Spoilers

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orphans from africa or southern asia?

b/c that's what rey was, essentially

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From India, most likely.

Then they end up moving here and getting jobs at Google and Microsoft because of their technical genius.

Your initial criticisms were somewhat valid, but complaining that the two main protagonists haven't received any type of formal education is utterly ridiculous.

It must be frustrating for you to watch something like Good Will Hunting.

i'm not going to reply to either of your comments solely b/c i pointed those out as nitpicks and continuing the discussion would accomplish the opposite of pointing them out (Which is that nitpicking wasn't going on)

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Han Solo seemed really cool in Episode VII to me.

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That's because he is Han Solo. But no, he's not as cool as he once was.

In this, he's an old man, still pretty athletic (he can run at 70+!), but no... if you saw this and this movie only, and had no concept of the other movies, you would not see an entire generation of kids wanting to emulate him like they did. Wanting to wear the white shirt with black vest, have the modified Mauser pistol, have Bigfoot as your sidekick, etc.
Like OLMLandshark said, people still dress up like him for Halloween, and it's immediately recognizable, as much as any mainstream superhero from the comic books.
Not sure if this movie produced anyone like that, that will have such a gigantic impact in mainstream culture.

Haven't read any of the other replies but did anyone else think the dialogue was often a bit too corny?

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Haven't read any of the other replies but did anyone else think the dialogue was often a bit too corny?

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Yeah, but it's Star Wars. Go back and watch the originals. Dialog that is simultaneously great and corny. It's not really an issue for me.

Is anyone else worried about Colin Trevorrow
directing episode IX?

This movie just keeps getting better every time I've seen it. Going again tomorrow. I can't get enough. So badass.

Just got out from watching it. Man it was incredible but I am gut shot over Han. I figured since they announced the movie that someone major would die and I always thought it would be him or Chewie. Even though I kind of expected it I am still just stunned. I think what got me was seeing him fall and his body flailing through the air. That hurt man.

Incredible movie though. The humor was great as well

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If you saw this movie before any of the others then you are stupid

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And I'm going to take issue with this point. Sure, anyone who's old enough to have seen the others, it makes sense to watch at least the OT (and I'd go as far as saying that the prequels are irrelevant to this movie).

But while this is definitely a gift for the original fans, it also works extremely well for young kids as a gateway to sci-fi adventure, just as Star Wars (as I refer to Ep 4) was. In a lot of ways, it's the same movie. You have the same dynamics, the same exotic and magical imagery, the same mystical reverence for the Force. It's a damn fun adventure.

You have similar characters, but not quite the same. You have the old gunslinger (Solo) instead of the old jedi wizard (Kenobi) on his last reluctant ride to save the galaxy, I think that's about equal. Rey is maybe on par with Luke as the new hope for us all. Finn and Poe together don't combine to match the Han Solo of the original movie, although I hold out hope that Poe might step up (he's the hotshot pilot of this movie).

Chewie is Chewie again, and if you never saw him before, he would still be the lovable furball after seeing this, that he was in Ep 4.

If you totally forget the prequels and anything Anakin, then Ren is fine as an obvious wannabe- and that's what he is. He cradles Vader's helmet like he's in Hamlet. Even Poe mocks him for not being clear to understand underneath the mask, something nobody would dare do to Vader... but as Rey tells him, he's no Vader.
With Ren being so powerful and yet so disrespected, it would draw you to the other films to discover who this Vader was, and why he's still considered to be far more than Ren is.


They just didn't catch lightning in a bottle with a character the way the original did with Harrison Ford's Han Solo, a character that transcends the story and becomes a cultural icon. Or, for that matter, the malevolence and evil that Darth Vader was, prior to the prequels.

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How is that a problem?


Well it can often times impede your judgement. For one

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That makes no sense in regards to this, and it seems like you're just trying to troll.

Star Wars The Force Awakens is setting a ton of records at the box office because of nostalgia. It isn't because it's a blockbuster release going into the holiday season, it's because we are seeing Han, Luke, Chewie and Leia again. Some hardcore geek types might care about the Jedi, but most mainstream fans care more about the Force (there's a difference), and tolerated the prequels because it was as close as we could legitimately get to what we fell in love with.
I didn't care a lot about Yoda in the original series, but he and Kenobi were about the only connection we had, so we went with it. But their worlds were boring, sterile and strangely childish. Star Wars, on the other hand, is dirty, sweaty, and full of broken down, lovable scenery and gear, and we returned to that with this film.