re: Star Wars: TFA -Official Discussion Thread - Spoilers

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I disagree. He's not some random old guy, he's Han Solo. His body may be failing him, but his presence is still there. He's a legendary gunslinger.

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Yes he's Han Solo, but just him going out on the Falcon blowing up another Death Star isn't great. It's expected. You can see it coming from a mile away, and I think I would largely be indifferent to it.

I now fully forgive Return of the Jedi for not killing him so we could get such a poingnant death. Han goes from an a-hole at a bar who kills pretty much anyone who stands in his way to being humanized in just begging his son to come home. It is a fantastic arc for the character. The movie really pulled off Han much better than I expected it to, so he's still clearly Han, but he's also a father who loves his son and wants to redeem himself for his failures in the past. That is just so much better than him simply dying on the Falcon.

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Han Solo did more to defeat the Empire than Luke or any other Jedi ever did.

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If we're going to go that route then we might as well say that Lando Calrissian was the true hero of the original trilogy.

Oh it was a great movie. Probably the second best Star Wars movie. I will say those nit picking some acting and other crap just cannot appreciate a good story. Rey was an awesome character. Kylo was a great villain, and being a remake of a new hope was super cool to get people back into a fun action series.

You clearly don't know drama.

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Here's a thought- the scene plays exactly as it does, except Solo falls to the bridge instead of off it. Everything is bad, Ren is chasing Rey etc, the Resistance realizes they are dead.

Then Leia has a look on her face, Solo stirs, takes the trigger, smiles, BOOM, and Leia has tears... and then a smile.

Doesn't change a bit of the plot going forward into the next movies, but finishes Solo in a far more satisfying manner.

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No. That underplays the scene. The point of the scene is that Kylo murders his own father in cold blood and cements himself to the Dark Side, which is especially chilling for what Han was saying and doing for him. That is going over the top.

Han didn't need to go out like a badass. The entire audience is already aware he's a badass. It's much better to take him out on an entirely human moment, something we very rarely see out of his character. That's the way to take out Han Solo. It actually means something.

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You clearly don't know drama.

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I clearly don't give a crap about drama and expected story and character progressions. I don't care about if this particular story is technically brilliant, or if it's equal/superior to Kurosawa or any other director's work. I don't care if this wins Oscars, box office records, or becomes mandatory material in college classes.

I grew up loving Star Wars and idolized Han Solo as a child, and that has kept me invested into my adult years. He was my hero, and he returned to the big screen this weekend. I am very satisfied that he appeared in a proper and fitting advancement of the story I came to know him in, and I enjoyed his part. He was STILL Han Solo to the very end, and I don't think the death was a complete disaster. But just like when your favorite uncle passes, you want it to go down as epic as possible.

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I will say those nit picking some acting and other crap just cannot appreciate a good story.

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the problem is the story is the biggest "nitpick" of them all

i'll give you 2 nitpicks

1. rey had WAY too much technical knowledge for an orphan who had no formal education

2. finn shouldn't have spoken a language that other entities could understand (to maintain the slavery)

THOSE are nitpicks. those sorts of issues aren't being discussed in this thread

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Han didn't need to go out like a badass. The entire audience is already aware he's a badass. It's much better to take him out on an entirely human moment, something we very rarely see out of his character. That's the way to take out Han Solo. It actually means something.

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Good point. I liked the movie a lot, btw

This, in a lot of ways, is just a more personal emotion. Like a lot of fans who grew up with the original series, I'm now too old to be the Han Solo I originally wanted to be when I was 10, as I'm now older than he was in those first films. This is a hero from 30-35 yrs ago. He can't still be the man he was then, as much as we all want and imagine our heroes to be permanently young and capable. He does go down with honor and dignity, something I appreciated. He did the right thing. But frick Ren for stabbing him .

Han Solo seemed really cool in Episode VII to me.

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I grew up loving Star Wars and idolized Han Solo as a child, and that has kept me invested into my adult years. He was my hero, and he returned to the big screen this weekend. I am very satisfied that he appeared in a proper and fitting advancement of the story I came to know him in, and I enjoyed his part. He was STILL Han Solo to the very end, and I don't think the death was a complete disaster.

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I'm with you man. I went as Han to a Halloween party this year and had a Leia date. I love his character.

I was so fearful with them bringing Han back. I thought initially you just bring Luke and R2-D2 back, and that was really it. I just still have bad memories of Crystal Skull and thought I didn't want an old Han Solo at all. I didn't want him to be a tired a-hole and out of his element like Indy was.

But god damn did they pull it off. Harrison had a youthful energy I hadn't seen from him in a good decade. You could tell he was loving this as an actor, and a large reason for that is his humanizing death that was in store for his character. He's still clearly Han and one hell of a smart arse, but not quite the bully he once was and makes for a great older figure for Rey and Finn. It was a completely logical evolution for the character that Ford pulled off perfectly. I was just wanting Luke as the Obi Wan figure, but I'm incredibly happy they brought back Han for the send off he deserves.