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re: Star Wars: TFA -Official Discussion Thread - Spoilers
Posted on 12/20/15 at 8:58 am to Bamatab
Posted on 12/20/15 at 8:58 am to Bamatab
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Because most of us are just thankful that we finally got a movie that had that same Star Wars "feel" to it,
see but it doesn't. that's the problem
nostalgia is clouding people's objectivity
to put it in contemporary terms, they tried to do a "modern star wars" and thy went marvel and should have gone DC
the "feel" of the OT didn't involve a shootout in almost every scene in the first half of a movie. it didn't jump around and it explained a lot. like i said earlier, this movie lacked gravitas. that's the easiest way to describe the issues (Esp comparing it to the OT)
it wasn't terrible. like i said last night it was decidedly mediocre. it was silly, disjointed, manic, and rushed, with a lot of characters that made no sense (at least yet) with a lot of leaning on nostalgia to act like the force ("you will not notice the pacing issues and disjointed plot")
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Posted on 12/20/15 at 8:59 am to Scruffy
Scruffy understands what Star Wars is all about.
Scruffy enjoyed the movie.
Scruffy and Chiz agree.
Scruffy enjoyed the movie.
Scruffy and Chiz agree.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 8:59 am to GeauxxxTigers23
I think this was better then episode 4
Posted on 12/20/15 at 9:03 am to Byron Bojangles III
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I think this was better then episode 4
because there was more kinetic energy on the screen?
Posted on 12/20/15 at 9:08 am to SlowFlowPro
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the "feel" of the OT didn't involve a shootout in almost every scene in the first half of a movie. it didn't jump around and it explained a lot. like i said earlier, this movie lacked gravitas. that's the easiest way to describe the issues (Esp comparing it to the OT)
Right. Star Wars was Abrams'd. Your issues are the same as Trekkies issues with the reboots.
You're not wrong. I just don't mind it.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 9:10 am to SlowFlowPro
If this movie had been directed by Chris Nolan, everyone would have collectively shot a load into the screen after it was over.
But yet it was directed by JJ so people will hate.
But yet it was directed by JJ so people will hate.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 9:14 am to WicKed WayZ
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But yet it was directed by JJ so people will hate.
I don't think its getting that much hate. Blueboy is just trolling and others are just pointing out flaws that they couldn't get past while acknowledging that it was a fun movie. Which is fair imo.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 9:17 am to Murray
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Your issues are the same as Trekkies issues with the reboots.
i literally said last night that now i know how star trek fans feel
i think JJ used the nostalgia bullshite to pull on emotional strings of people like the force to blind them to the film's individual quality
i think over time this will fade and the "re watch" in a year or so will lead to a sharp decline in how it is seen
the biggest positive note is that the movie did get better towards the middle-end. the biggest worry is that the final battle was very meh, so it lost a lot of the momentum built after a pretty terrible opening third. we'll see what happens
i am much more interested in the stand alone movie possibilities away from the main trilogy
Posted on 12/20/15 at 9:20 am to WicKed WayZ
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If this movie had been directed by Chris Nolan, everyone would have collectively shot a load into the screen after it was over.
i said TDK was overrated (it was really great BUT it was rated so highly that it needed to be taken down a peg) the night i saw the movie, never pulled punches about TDKr, and flatly criticized Interstellar, bro.
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But yet it was directed by JJ so people will hate.
i don't hate JJ, but his JJisms were all over this movie
if you want a lot of jump cuts, jumbled (but constant) action, a weak plot, shallow characters, a jesus-type character who becomes "The one" far too easily, and a lens flare or 2, then JJ is your guy.
like i said this movie wasn't terrible, but it was very shallow, jumbled, and silly (with lots of forced nostalgia)
Posted on 12/20/15 at 9:31 am to SlowFlowPro
One thing I really liked was the lightsaber battle at the end. It was slow and more like the fights of old rather than the crazy jump, fast fights of the new trilogy.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 9:37 am to Scruffy
yeah that was a nice change, but i only wish JJ could direct an action scene. the zoom-in focus with a multitude of cuts is just terrible. i thought that style would have died out by now, but it is still strong.
hopefully the next director gets it right, visually (i mean this with the space shootout scenes as well)
also i hope finn is mute in the next 2 movies. if he's alive, they can at least make him a mute to avoid his character's stupidity
hopefully the next director gets it right, visually (i mean this with the space shootout scenes as well)
also i hope finn is mute in the next 2 movies. if he's alive, they can at least make him a mute to avoid his character's stupidity
Posted on 12/20/15 at 9:41 am to SlowFlowPro
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also i hope finn is mute in the next 2 movies. if he's alive, they can at least make him a mute to avoid his character's stupidity
Well that was already (mostly) done in episodes 2 and 3, so they're pretty likely to copy it.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 9:54 am to cascadia
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I didn't really like the mind control aspect of the force and was more hoping that she'd slowly throughout the movie become more powerful.
I really liked that aspect of the Force. It was one of the best scenes in the film where Rey and Kylo face off against one another in a battle of minds and will power. This is hinted as a possibility in the powers of the Force in the original trilogy, and it's good to see it come to fruition here. That scene has more creativity with the Force than anything in the entire prequel trilogy.
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Also, at the end I thought having Fin stay alive after having his back split was dumb. Find another way to end that part of the battle and keep him alive.
Honestly, if a lightsaber was feasible, then really in order to actually kill someone with it, you've got to hack someone to pieces with it. A lightsaber is so hot that any injury you get from it will be instantly sealed due to the heat. In another words, it's highly unlikely you bleed out like you would in a normal sword battle.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 9:55 am to Scruffy
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He was sent on his first mission and bailed.
Anyone think that the story could parallel ROTJ, "I let those codes fall into the hands of the republic".
"Ren"(black guy not sure), is a mole. Darth 2.0 felt his presence, in that village. (I remember because Darth2 stopped and turned to him and stared at him from afar, and I thought, " oh, he sences force in the stormtrooper dude."
So, he comes from the darkside and all of a sudden has a Change of heart, EASILY escapes megadeathstar, and appeared to be unaware of his own ability when shooting and hitting tie fighters.
After the crash when poe disappears, the chick took over with force stuff, but ren was also having a few "howd I do that" type stuff.
As for poe, still sketchy disappearance in sand only to show up across the galaxy faster than our heroes. Me thinks that darth2 broke him then allowed ren and he to escape.
Ren poe= bad guys, or unknowingly working for them
Posted on 12/20/15 at 9:59 am to OMLandshark
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Honestly, if a lightsaber was feasible, then really in order to actually kill someone with it, you've got to hack someone to pieces with it. A lightsaber is so hot that any injury you get from it will be instantly sealed due to the heat. In another words, it's highly unlikely you bleed out like you would in a normal sword battle.
this would work with flesh wounds but his spine should be detached
you can cauterize a wound and still have massive internal damage that will kill the shite out of you
Posted on 12/20/15 at 10:02 am to SlowFlowPro
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because there was more kinetic energy on the screen?
Better protagonist
Better antagonist (just going off of A New Hope alone)
Much better duel
Better epic death
Better close
I don't think it's significantly better than Episode IV, but these things for me make me like the movie more. It's certainly not better than Empire though.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 10:02 am to OMLandshark
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You're all just coming across as a bunch of sexist, racist idiots
Posted on 12/20/15 at 10:05 am to SlowFlowPro
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you can cauterize a wound and still have massive internal damage that will kill the shite out of you
My point is you're not likely to bleed out, which is the cause of the majority of violent deaths.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 10:06 am to OMLandshark
Does anyone have insight on how General Hux could treat Ren like a bitch? He wasn't intimidated by the force at all. Makes me think he will be a major player.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 10:07 am to OMLandshark
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Much better duel
again, because it was more kinetic?
it was shot horribly and i don't really agree. especially with me disagreeing on
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Better epic death
obi wan sacrificing himself in such an obviously solemn manner intended to further the mythology of the force has a lot more impact
i knew han was dying as soon as he gave chewie the detonator. it was telegraphed and han's role was much more minor than ben's, in the big picture (i mean moving forward in each series).
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Better antagonist
vader instantly became one of the most iconic villains in film history after ep4. an emo ripoff doesn't compare. c'mon
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