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re: Star Wars: TFA -Official Discussion Thread - Spoilers
Posted on 12/19/15 at 8:26 pm to The Pirate King
Posted on 12/19/15 at 8:26 pm to The Pirate King
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I really hope you're trolling
i don't troll much anymore and i never troll this board
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the overuse of comic relief was the biggest problem IMO.
that was terrible, as was forcing in so many OT characters into the movie
watching this movie around other people likely was a bad idea b/c i got angry when the people around me clapped when each old character showed up. i swear this fat lady next to me had an orgasm when they panned to the falcon
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Posted on 12/19/15 at 8:27 pm to OMLandshark
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Please go to bat and tell me how he's worse than Qui Gon Jinn or prequel Anakin.
He could have been a lot better. That character leaves a lot to be desired. Some random star trooper private? Cmon! Should have been a bad arse tie fighter pilot or an experienced storm trooper like that captain chick. Something like that would have opened up a lot more doors.
This post was edited on 12/19/15 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 12/19/15 at 8:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
The idea that he literally didn't have a name and was forced into being a trooper was interesting to me. They just kind of glossed over it though.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 8:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
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his character makes no sense whatsoever and ruins almost anything he's around (unlike qui gon or anakin)
I have to heavily disagree with you there. When was Qui Gon ever competent and didn't instantly shut down with whoever disagreed with him on his stupid drunk schemes? Qui Gon's actions when you think about them are utterly stupid and despicable, but George Lucas is trying to tell the audience that he's wise? Sorry, but it utterly fails. I don't see where Finn fails to this glorious of a scale.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 8:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
We've discussed Rey's quick learning ad nauseam. There could be an explanation for it in the future.
Are you really getting stuck on a name? Really? I'm actually glad they avoided all the politics and deep explanations as to who is fighting who and why. Plenty of time to get all that figured out. I'm happy they set up the characters and overall story instead.
Ep 4 is often described as "silly with a shitty plot". So you must not have liked that one either.
Are you really getting stuck on a name? Really? I'm actually glad they avoided all the politics and deep explanations as to who is fighting who and why. Plenty of time to get all that figured out. I'm happy they set up the characters and overall story instead.
Ep 4 is often described as "silly with a shitty plot". So you must not have liked that one either.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 8:30 pm to elprez00
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Jesus SFP, you seem like you were determined not to be pleased.
not true
i went in completely blank. i really knew nothing about the movie going in except that 12 years a slave had her role cut b/c the cgi didn't work and adam from girls was the neo-vader. i purposefully avoided discussing the movie to avoid any expectations
the movie was just absolutely jumbled. there wasn't much of a plot. it was just one scene after another that started as a pause due to the jump-cut chaos of the previous scene, only to end up with some random action event arising, leading to jump-cut chaos. wash, rinse, and repeat. there was no pacing except "accelerate" and no time to be pensive
the original trilogy was full of slow, intricate scenes with lots of meditation required with a slow burn over time
this movie was the opposite of that
now i know how star trek fans feel after JJ got his hands on their franchise. he did the same shite with star trek
Posted on 12/19/15 at 8:31 pm to craigbiggio
Geez. Now I know why I don't come to this board as often. 
Some of y'all are insufferable.
Some of y'all are insufferable.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 8:31 pm to craigbiggio
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The idea that he literally didn't have a name and was forced into being a trooper was interesting to me. They just kind of glossed over it though.
they glossed over a lot so that they could get into the next jump-cut chaos scene more quickly
Posted on 12/19/15 at 8:32 pm to ell_13
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. To get the bad taste of the prequels out.
The fact that many people are not getting this is mind blowing.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 8:33 pm to OMLandshark
quote:Because it's just impossible that another person didn't like the movie that you liked. The fact that this concept seems incomprehensible to you says it all.
You're such a stupid trolling pussy.
This movie sucked, Luke. Know it to be true.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 8:33 pm to Othello
That's not really a great excuse for rehashing the "blow up the planet-destroying space station" for the THIRD time.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 8:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
That chic was Maz. She was still in it but not in the way originally planned. They completely changed the CGI because she wasn't working as a "real" looking character.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 8:33 pm to OMLandshark
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When was Qui Gon ever competent
being incompetent is a lesser sin than being overly competent without any reason to be
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I don't see where Finn fails to this glorious of a scale.
a hardened slave who has known nothing but training wouldn't have a moral compass to "do the right thing", let alone have a sassy disposition or any reasoning to betray the only group he's ever known. and that betrayal isn't even established. he just is a good guy from his first appearance onward
Posted on 12/19/15 at 8:34 pm to ell_13
We could sit here all night for almost any movie and nitpick dozens of things that weren't executed perfectly. I came out of this movie very pleased, with enough nostalgia and enough new characters to carry through the next 2 films and beyond.
But for the love of God, please no more planet destroying space stations or guns.
But for the love of God, please no more planet destroying space stations or guns.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 8:34 pm to OMLandshark
Samuel L. Jackson was pointless in the prequels and did fricking nothing like my friend pointed out. FN was fricking awesome. He saw the brutality of war and genocide and wanted nothing to do with it. He said that was his first battle at the beginning.
This post was edited on 12/19/15 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 12/19/15 at 8:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
Was it not apparent that we jumped in the middle of a few of the character's story? Ren and Fin get little background.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 8:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
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hardened slave who has known nothing but training wouldn't have a moral compass to "do the right thing", let alone have a sassy disposition or any reasoning to betray the only group he's ever known.
Yeah that's why no soldiers ever defect from North Korea.
Oh wait....
Posted on 12/19/15 at 8:36 pm to ell_13
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There could be an explanation for it in the future.
there honestly is none. it took luke 2.5 films to get to that level, after being originally guided by a master and trained by THE master
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Are you really getting stuck on a name? Really? I'
it was more than a name. they were the rebels vol. 2, which literally makes no sense
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I'm happy they set up the characters and overall story instead.
they didn't really set up much, if you think about it
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Ep 4 is often described as "silly with a shitty plot". So you must not have liked that one either.
it was much more narrow of a plot and did a lot better with that. it was coherent and more than just one action scene after another
Posted on 12/19/15 at 8:37 pm to The Pirate King
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I came out of this movie very pleased, with enough nostalgia and enough new characters to carry through the next 2 films and beyond.
This is how I feel too. Just seeing things like the Falcon, Han, Chewie etc on screen again after so long was awesome. I really enjoyed Rey and Kylo. I liked Finn too, and I liked the humor/cheese. But I definitely think they banked to hard on the nostalgia factor and didn't put enough effort into a better story.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 8:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
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a hardened slave who has known nothing but training wouldn't have a moral compass to "do the right thing", let alone have a sassy disposition or any reasoning to betray the only group he's ever known. and that betrayal isn't even established. he just is a good guy from his first appearance onward
Which even if you're right is not as bad as Qui Gon. He almost gets everyone killed constantly and forces a boy to go into a dangerous race for no reason if he actually thought through the options he had for getting the Queen to Coruscant. Literally everyone in the movie disagrees with his actions, and he just tells everyone else to frick themselves. And he's Lucas' failed attempt at a protagonist of the movie. That's worse than anything Finn did or the movie attempted to do with the character.
This post was edited on 12/19/15 at 8:39 pm
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