re: Star Wars: TFA -Official Discussion Thread - Spoilers

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It was just too formulaic and cheesy. There's really no getting around that.

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The original is this as well. I don't see why this is a bad thing. It worked the first time and the masses agree it worked this time. Episode VIII is when they'll get creative. This movie's only goal is to reestablish the franchise and to get the trust of the fans back. They've succeeded.

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She was clearly left with Unkar Platt qho did in fact have food and water. Started off on a terrible note here.

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That isn't established at all, and why wouldn't she be hanging out with him at the start of the film? Surely she would have at least been neighbors with the guy who raised her. Maybe he'd be a distant figure like Obi Wan was to Luke, but I have no reason to think he was a big part of her personal life. She makes no mention of having loved ones, aside from the people who abandoned her. I think it's made clear she has no friends or anyone to rely on in the story.

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Well considering she had a family who could come back for her and Anakin had no daddy, and the fact that Anakin was still you know, a slave.

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Anakin had a mother who was dear to him and gave him every opportunity she could afford. Plenty of people don't have fathers in their lives. As the orange alien pointed out, Rey having loved ones who will come back for her is simply a delusion. It's the only thing I think that kept her sane for quite some time. Not even remotely comparable.

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They lived in Section 8 housing. So what? There weren't in a Coruscant penthouse.

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Go volunteer in a third world country. I have, and trust me Anakin was living in luxury compared to some of the shite I've seen. Walk into an Chinese orphanage sometime and tell me that what Anakin was going through is comparable, especially when he and his mother can afford to feed an extra 3 guests for a few days. This just simply naive on your part.

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Cool. Not relevant at all.

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It kind of is since I've seen how the lowest of the low live. You really haven't. Even bums in this country have it good to a lot of the crap I've seen.

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You act like Rey was in the favelas of Rio or in Lagos, Nigeria, or Detroit and Anakin was chilling over in the East Village with his ma. Come on now.

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I'm thinking more on the lines of Rey being abandoned in the middle of Afghanistan to fend for herself, and Anakin is living in an American ghetto off of food stamps and a mother to provide every means for him to partake in his passions. They are not remotely comparable living situations.

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The original is this as well.

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not really as much. the original created the structure that has been copied so much

this movie is basically a JJ remake of episode 4, which isn't a good thing

they went SO FAR back into the same well as the original triology b/c they had no balls. they went safe, and this was safe as shite

I think that was on purpose SFP. To get the bad taste of the prequels out. There were enough new plot points to let Rian do what he does best. Just like the OT, I expect the second one to be the best.

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I think that was on purpose SFP. To get the bad taste of the prequels out.

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then fine, but that makes a pretty weak movie

if you're lowering the bar so much that "it wasn't attack of the clones bad" then i don't think you can adequately discuss the movie

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Just like the OT, I expect the second one to be the best.

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well luckily one OG character died. we needed 1-2 more

hopefully finn is dead

I didn't like Fin either TBH. But Rey was great. I'm happy this is her story. And I liked Ren too. He's something we've never seen or rather what we should have seen with Anakin.

I don't think it was weak. You have a stormtrooper switching sides and finally someone inside the resistance (Poe) who we can follow.

I hope Leia goes next. Fisher isn't good and doesn't need to be taking away screen time.

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Thinking about movies keeps me up at night

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So you really were jacking off to this movie? Marvelous.

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Blueboy previously ridiculed me for pretty much having a checklist on what I wanted in this movie

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Yes, I thought it was absurd that a person would have a checklist for a movie. That's just weird.

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and I was fully satisfied.

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Stop jacking off, dude.

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I think it's a good thing they heavily relied on A New Hope

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No, they regurgitated it because they are incapable of original thought. It was insulting.

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"oh, you all will agree with me and apologize"

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I ddin't say that anyone would apologize. I said that time would vindicate me, when the fanboys get over their hangover and realize that just because it was better than the prequels, it doesn't mean that it's good.

Can you two just frick and get it over with?

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the movie was decidedly mediocre

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There are dozens of us. Dozens.

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Please go to bat and tell me how he's worse than Qui Gon Jinn or prequel Anakin.

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he's too energetic, eager, educated, and is basically just a tool to randomly move the plot along and add some modern sass

his character makes no sense whatsoever and ruins almost anything he's around (unlike qui gon or anakin)