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Posted on 12/28/15 at 1:18 pm to VaBamaMan
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They hollowed out an already existing planet. They didn't build a new one.
Did i miss that? Honest question. When did they explain this?
Posted on 12/28/15 at 1:26 pm to Hester Carries
It was just kind of implied from all the trees and mountains. I was a little confused at first when they fired the weapon and the soldiers were watching in the snow and the trees. I thought they were watching on a nearby planet. But then I noticed they had turned the planet INTO the weapon
Posted on 12/28/15 at 1:26 pm to Hester Carries
quote:Seriously? You think they planted all of those trees and built the mountains? They cut out the part that was needed to build the base and weapon.
Did i miss that? Honest question. When did they explain this?
Posted on 12/28/15 at 1:36 pm to Hester Carries
I'm not sure they did.
I thought they said something about it in when they were planning the attack.
But the trees on it were old growth. They were way too big for them to have been grown.
Honestly, I haven't seen anyone bring up the single biggest mcguffin in the whole movie. The Falcon makes it inside the shield at lightspeed, without driving right through the surface.
Imagine flying a ship the size of Han's freighter into the starkiller at lightspeed. Would have done way more damage. Yes, I know they didn't have access anymore.
Also, if the Falcon can manage to stop inside the shield, so could the X wings. So why do the shields need taken down at all? They weren't trying to get the whole fleet inside the shield, because it wasn't there. The fleet was gone. It was only the X wings.
I thought they said something about it in when they were planning the attack.
But the trees on it were old growth. They were way too big for them to have been grown.
Honestly, I haven't seen anyone bring up the single biggest mcguffin in the whole movie. The Falcon makes it inside the shield at lightspeed, without driving right through the surface.
Imagine flying a ship the size of Han's freighter into the starkiller at lightspeed. Would have done way more damage. Yes, I know they didn't have access anymore.
Also, if the Falcon can manage to stop inside the shield, so could the X wings. So why do the shields need taken down at all? They weren't trying to get the whole fleet inside the shield, because it wasn't there. The fleet was gone. It was only the X wings.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 1:42 pm to VaBamaMan
You have to have a little suspension of disbelief. Just like the fact that they all instantaneously accelerate to lightspeed. Imagine the G-forces.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 1:43 pm to VaBamaMan
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Honestly, I haven't seen anyone bring up the single biggest mcguffin in the whole movie. The Falcon makes it inside the shield at lightspeed, without driving right through the surface.
I'm not sure if it was in this thread but I mentioned that.
I am also curious why it didn't explode into a million pieces when it tea bagged the snow right after coming out of lightspeed.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 1:46 pm to BulldogXero
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I am also curious why it didn't explode into a million pieces when it tea bagged the snow right after coming out of lightspeed.
Shields. And it wasn't moving at lightspeed.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 1:48 pm to Sgt_Lincoln_Osiris
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Sgt_Lincoln_Osiris
Dude.
I know.
I was pointing it out because people keep haviing ridiculous complaints, and not one of them is that moment. When a 70 something yr old Han has the reflexes to perfectly pull the ship out of lightspeed inside of a planet wide shield.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 1:49 pm to pvilleguru
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Shields. And it wasn't moving at lightspeed.
I don't think shields work that way. I realize it wasn't flying at lightspeed, but that wasn't a light scrap of the ground. It slammed to the surface.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 1:50 pm to pvilleguru
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lightspeed
He says something about flying at lightspeed when they were jumping out of the freighter bay. They were going the same speed.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 1:53 pm to VaBamaMan
When they hit the ground, it didnt look like they were moving any faster than what passenger airplanes fly at.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 1:55 pm to pvilleguru
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Seriously? You think they planted all of those trees and built the mountains? They cut out the part that was needed to build the base and weapon.
Easy big fella. You think its completely reasonable to think that they could hollow out a fricking planet and turn it into a base, but its not reasonable to assume they might have added natural elements to the outside of a man made base???? Well excuuuussseee my fictional reasoning guffaw.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 1:56 pm to BulldogXero
Because Han Solo, that's why.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 2:04 pm to Hester Carries
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You think its completely reasonable to think that they could hollow out a fricking planet and turn it into a base, but its not reasonable to assume they might have added natural elements to the outside of a man made base????
Reasonable, no. But more reasonable to cut out that space they need than to build a full planet from scratch.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 2:12 pm to VaBamaMan
quote:The travel in Star Wars is a little bit unique; ships make the jump out of light speed/hyperspace and decelerate rapidly.
Dude.
I know.
I was pointing it out because people keep haviing ridiculous complaints, and not one of them is that moment. When a 70 something yr old Han has the reflexes to perfectly pull the ship out of lightspeed inside of a planet wide shield.
It's got to be a sort of wormhole travel, as actual lightspeed would still take years, decades, centuries, even millenia to go from one edge of the galaxy to the opposite. Not to mention, pure physics would mean everyone would be smeared into a thin film of jelly when you consider the rapid acceleration/deceleration involved (and a force field capable of buffering that would easily defeat any potential weaponry or impact).
It's somewhat tied to the actual physical world, as you have to plot a course around physical objects; Han references that early in leaving Tatooine in ANH.
So, the concept is pretty sound, within the rules at play. The Falcon simply has to take a wormhole to Starkiller base, and rather than dropping out in orbit, the wormhole has to be exited inside the shields, which would be within the planet's atmosphere. This is EXTREMELY precise, way beyond expected norms in that galaxy- but the Falcon's navigation has been so fine-tuned that Han has "made the Kessel Run in under 12 parsecs"... meaning he has been capable of plotting courses way more precisely, in that ship, than anyone else has.
You then get to the issue of the Falcon being piloted inside the atmosphere, slowing from regular space travel (which would be at something beyond escape velocity), without slamming into the ground. The Falcon has been shown multiple times as being a nimble and responsive craft able to evade Tie Fighters, and Han is a skilled pilot that knows the feel of the ship intimately. He accomplishes this.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 2:32 pm to Scoob
3 things.
1) Han hasn't flown in the Falcon in years.
2) It was charted, but he pulled out by hand. 70+ yr old men don't have those kind of reflexes.
3) The Falcon is "junk" and hadn't flown in years. Chewie couldn't have done that much work on it with one hand at Maz's.
Look, I don't even know why I am arguing it. I only said it make a point about how stupid it is to whine about other "plot holes" and "mcguffins" which are simply moments one needs to suspend belief.
1) Han hasn't flown in the Falcon in years.
2) It was charted, but he pulled out by hand. 70+ yr old men don't have those kind of reflexes.
3) The Falcon is "junk" and hadn't flown in years. Chewie couldn't have done that much work on it with one hand at Maz's.
Look, I don't even know why I am arguing it. I only said it make a point about how stupid it is to whine about other "plot holes" and "mcguffins" which are simply moments one needs to suspend belief.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 2:47 pm to VaBamaMan
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The Falcon is "junk" and hadn't flown in years. Chewie couldn't have done that much work on it with one hand at Maz's.
To this point, the Falcon has always been "junk". I think describing it that way was more of a throwback. It was referred to as junk multiple times in the original trilogy.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 2:51 pm to VaBamaMan
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It was charted, but he pulled out by hand. 70+ yr old men don't have those kind of reflexes.
You shut your whore mouth, that's Han Solo you're talking about.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 2:52 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
Can anyone tell me how Kylo got the Darth helmet after Luke burned the body of Vader in episode 6?
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