re: Star Wars: TFA -Official Discussion Thread - Spoilers

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Can anyone tell me how Kylo got the Darth helmet after Luke burned the body of Vader in episode 6?

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It isn't shown yet, but there could be many reasonable explanations. Maybe Luke kept it as a reminder and homage to his Father? When Ren stormed the new temple, he may have taken it?

The bigger question is how did they get Anakin's lightsaber? I can't wait for that to get answered.

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The bigger question is how did they get Anakin's lightsaber? I can't wait for that to get answered.

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No kidding. :bartscott:

Wasn't necessarily meaning you, but I'm getting down votes and replies galore.

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I get that, but I do wonder how long the First Order has been in existence, how many star systems are under its control, and how they were able to build such a massive weapon under the noses of the Republic while they were supposedly under economic sanctions.

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The First Order came about from the remnants of the Empire. They all went into the Unknown Regions where it was harder for the New Republic to know what they were doing. A few people knew that they were up to something (Leia) but most of the Senate chose to ignore them while they gained military strength.

I get your overall point of it being a lot of nit-picking.

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3 things.

1) Han hasn't flown in the Falcon in years.

2) It was charted, but he pulled out by hand. 70+ yr old men don't have those kind of reflexes.

3) The Falcon is "junk" and hadn't flown in years. Chewie couldn't have done that much work on it with one hand at Maz's.

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Easy enough answer- the actual true achievement is plotting the course so absolutely precise, that the Falcon emerges within a couple of miles of where it needs to be. Most times, ships appear pretty far out in orbit, needing a little sublight travel to arrive where they need to be. That means they give themselves a couple thousand miles leeway.
Let's say the Falcon needs, say, 30 miles to slow down to a stop. Let's say the shield is maybe 100 or so miles above the surface (low orbit, really). Han, simply, is saying he can make the Falcon drop out of hyperspace in a tight enough window that he can both clear the shield, and have room to slow down enough to land. That gives him a 70 mile window, and he made it inside that window with about 10 feet to spare. For practical purposes, you assume they fudge a little towards the surface, because there is no recovery from hitting the shield, while in theory, they can crash-land onto the planet, and any survivors can then complete the task (with it then being a suicide mission, no escape).

The Falcon being junk has been a long-standing theme; it corresponds with hot rods. It makes sense that the Falcon would be so finicky and sensitive, as it's not a minivan, it's arguably the most finely tuned vehicle in the galaxy. everything must be just-so, or it loses it's edge.

Reflexes... maybe Rey has better. But Han is by far the more experienced on this particular craft, knows what it can do and what it can take. Any vehicle can be forced into a crash, by over-doing it.
Maybe Rey would have been able to have landed the craft without any bouncing, we don't know. But we are definitely led to understand she would not have been able to get it out at the precise instant it needed to be, whether via pre-plotting the course, or the exact timing of when to exit Hyperspace etc.
That's the tradeoff you get with a 70 yr old Solo. Hyperspace travel at it's finest.

If old man Han and the Falcon could do it, why couldn't the X-Wings? Why did the shield need taken down at all?

Again, I really don't care. But these are the type of things people are whining about. When TFA has less of these moments than the OT.

Tied?

Sure

It had quite a few (Not that ANH didn't).

Yes, I am a father.

If my son needs to be put down, I would prefer to be the one to do it.

That being said, if my son is basically brainwashed but redemption is very possible, I react just like Han.

I can't explain what I would do for my son, especially to save his soul(essentially what Han was trying to do).


For the record, Ford in that scene was brilliant. Especially after Kylo stabs him. His acting was flawless, and that look of forgiveness and love, combined with his hand, may end up being the most pivotal moment in the entire trilogy. Depending on where they go.

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Solos son is little bitch and a shitty Villian

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Read the last 20 pages. I don't have the energy to explain this shite anymore.

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 Is Rae somebody's daughter or just a random hot chick with the force?

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This tells me you did not pay near enough attention.