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Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:18 pm to NIH
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The ghosts are kind of powerless but how do you explain Palplatine being alive in physical form if you go that route
Besides when Yoda directed lightning to burn down that tree?
Remember, China wont allow movies with "ghosts" in them. Which is probably why Yoda was more opaque than past force ghosts in the SW universe.
Unless the decide to not care about Chinese audiences, there will be as little force ghosting as possible.
This post was edited on 4/12/19 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:18 pm to NIH
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but how do you explain Palplatine being alive in physical form if you go that route
Persevering physical life has always been something the Sith strived for, its how Vader survived his injuries. Darth Sion is a good legends example of “should be dead but is alive”. In order to kill him they’ll have to sever him from the force completely, just as the Nihilus and Sion did to Traya.
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:19 pm to NIH
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That’s kind of a rock and a hard place too
The ghosts are kind of powerless but how do you explain Palplatine being alive in physical form if you go that route
I don’t know if this is still considered canon or not. But I remember that Darth Bane before he died was rumored to have mastered a Force ability called “essence transfer” (or something along those lines) where someone at the moment of death or right after could transfer their essence into a new host body.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:20 pm to NIH
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The ghosts are kind of powerless but how do you explain Palplatine being alive in physical form if you go that route
Palplatine was always a master manipulator. Him as a force ghost just convincing people to do things might work.
Or maybe he somehow achieved a level of power to actually manage to come back physically.
There's a lot of ways they can do it and have it "work"
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:21 pm to Darth_Vader
I liked it. I am very interested now in this.
Side note - Rian should be castrated and sent to a lonely place.
Side note - Rian should be castrated and sent to a lonely place.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:21 pm to RLDSC FAN
I honestly didn't think that looked very good.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:22 pm to RLDSC FAN
Rey aka Katara aka Aang isn’t the skywalker. It’s obviously Ben Solo aka Kylo Ren aka Zuko, the direct descendant of Anakin.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:22 pm to Bamadiver
quote:The new books are canon, I believe. If they are, the Empires's End book (last of the Aftermath trilogy) talked about how Palpatine had seninel droids in various locations that could speak in his voice and even had his face projected on them.
Well, there was a story line where the Emperor had clones of himself. IIRC, the clones didn't last long due to the power they contained. Could be they're doing something similar and that is why Snoke was so jacked up. Maybe steal The Force Unleased Starkiller idea...have Rey be a cloned Skywalker. Who knows?
The book also talked about how he created these "observatories" on different planets trying to find a path through the Unknown Regions on the edge of the galaxy. He was under the belief that there was an entity out there that was very powerful. I believe the same entity was referenced in the new Thrawn book as well, as Thrawn comes from the Unknown Regions. There was speculation that Snoke could be this entity, and if he wasn't, I wonder if the new parasitic worm character could be.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:25 pm to ohiovol
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I honestly didn't think that looked very good.
Well, they showed nothing.
But they hinted that the movie would basically retcon all the shite about 8 people didn't like.
The title, the emperor laugh, "nobody is ever really gone"
They are tacitly promising Skywalker vs. Emperor.
We've went from "let the past die" to "RISE OF SKYWALKER"
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:27 pm to PEPE
It did feel a lot more original trilogy'ish than 8 at least. I'll take that.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:29 pm to PEPE
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They could have possibly pulled it off but they didn't have the balls to step in and fire Rian when he was setting the house on fire in 8.
basically
he legit just imploded this trilogy by deconstructing it
we can talk about the forced diversity, deification of Rey, and bad writing, but the implosion of the entire storyline was something they simply can't fix
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
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we can talk about the forced diversity,
Rey and Finn were set up just fine. They only went downhill after that.
-trashed female Captain Phasma as well. Had potential but was trashed.
This post was edited on 4/12/19 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:31 pm to PEPE
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They are tacitly promising Skywalker vs. Emperor.
If we somehow get Jedi Master Luke vs Emperor Palpatine after the abomination that was VIII, give Abrams a lifetime achievement oscar.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:33 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Rey and Finn were set up just fine. They only went downhill after that.
yeah i'm talking in 8, although Finn is still useless and is still the worst part of 7
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
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yeah i'm talking in 8, although Finn is still useless and is still the worst part of 7
Agreed. Back when they were still trying to make star wars like Guardians of the Galaxy and he was the Peter Quill of the show and Rey was Gamora.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:35 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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How is palpatine going to be back?
My guess is it’s a flashback or a dream or something
I think he's actually back.
This post was edited on 4/12/19 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:38 pm to tiggerthetooth
you have poe
you have finn
you don't need both
you have finn
you don't need both
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
Watching the trailer again, in the beginning Luke says "We've passed on all we know." Since Luke never bothered to train Rey in the 8, I'm wondering who is "We?" Luke and Yoda force ghosts team up to train Rey?
Posted on 4/12/19 at 1:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
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we can talk about the forced diversity, deification of Rey, and bad writing, but the implosion of the entire storyline was something they simply can't fix
Yep. We're all happy with this trailer right now, but I still think this movie will suck.
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