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re: Star Wars Episode 8: The Last Jedi Discussion Thread ***SPOILERS***
Posted on 12/17/17 at 11:35 am to Salamander_Wilson
Posted on 12/17/17 at 11:35 am to Salamander_Wilson
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Of my friends who have seen the movie who are as hard core Star Wars fans as myself, 3 hated it and 2 loved it.
I'm thoroughly convinced this will be like Man of Steel, where tons of people love it initially, and then there's everyone else who could see it for the pile of garbage it actually is. They'll be bombarded to eventually concede. I don't see how you can possibly justify Finn's awful arc in this movie.
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 11:37 am to NIH
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It resonates with women, new heroes of the galaxy
This movie makes an excellent argument on why women shouldn't orchestrate war or be on the battlefield.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 11:45 am to StrongBackWeakMind
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Probably sacrilegious to say this, but Carrie Fisher was a bad actress in 7 and 8. I'm not happy she's dead, but I'm happy she won't be in Episode 9.
When she starts yelling orders on the bridge, she could barely speak.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 11:46 am to BulldogXero
When she has to look sad or contemplative, it's so terrible that it takes me straight out of the movie. I don't think I could do worse.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 11:49 am to Tiguar
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there is a whole time frame between ESB and RotJ where Luke goes back to train. He was not a Jedi at the end of ESB- he had become a Jedi by RotJ.
bullshite. In ROTJ, Luke meets up with Lando, Chewie and Leia on Tatooine to save Han, then returns to Yoda for the first time since ESB. When he gets back to Dagobah, he tells Yoda that he has returned to complete his training, and Yoda tells him he doesn't require any more. If he went back to Dagobah to train first, why did he wait until ROTJ to ask Yoda about Vader being his father? None of the events in ROTJ suggest that Luke had been back to train with Yoda since he left in ESB.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 11:50 am to medtiger
It's not bullshite. There is other star wars media out there besides the movies.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:01 pm to Tiguar
I would posit that the large majority of Star Wars fans are only so because of the movies and have never consumed any other Star Wars media.
Myself included.
Myself included.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:05 pm to Tiguar
Then link your media and explain why my points are incorrect. That media was created after the movies. The specific scenario that you are talking about doesn't fit with the original story, so whatever book or cartoon series, etc that you are referencing is at best lazy writing, and more likely just bullshite.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:09 pm to Salamander_Wilson
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I would posit that the large majority of Star Wars fans are only so because of the movies and have never consumed any other Star Wars media.
The other Star Wars media sprouted from the original movies. It isn’t like an entire series was written (like GoT or Harry Potter) and then adapted to the screen.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:20 pm to LSUAlum2001
I understand this.
That doesn't change the sentiment of my statement.
That doesn't change the sentiment of my statement.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:38 pm to medtiger
He probably waited until returning to Dagobah so that the question could be asked on screen
Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:49 pm to Salamander_Wilson
I just finished Thrawn. Really great book, and Timothy Zahn is a great writer. I would love a Thrawn trilogy.
This post was edited on 12/17/17 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:54 pm to Bonkers119
That's the thing that aggravates me. They have all of this material to work with. Literally hundreds of Star Wars books and short stories. And this is the garbage they give us.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:56 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
Yeah but all the other source material is in timeframes between the prequels and the OT. The new trilogy is new canon, so they are winging the story at this point.
This post was edited on 12/17/17 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 12/17/17 at 1:01 pm to Bonkers119
What I'm saying is that they didn't have to go out on their own. They had good source material they could work from.
This post was edited on 12/17/17 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 12/17/17 at 1:08 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
I guess. But Disney said they want Star Wars films for the next 25 years. They were trying to continue the OT saga the best they could, while moving the whole universe forward. Disney is not just thinking about episode 9, but also 10,11,12. Eventually they may start making some trilogy’s over the other material as well.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 1:09 pm to Bonkers119
There's no need to guess. There are hundreds of Star Wars books out there - many set during this time period.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 1:12 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
The problem is finding the ones that don’t still focus on the Skywalkers. Even in Thrawn Ankakin is talked about a few times. Zahn even said that Thrawn and Anakin will meet up in his new book next year.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 1:13 pm to Purple Spoon
This whole movie was one big cringe. Del Turro was absolutely terrible, the dialogue was very Episode 1, the stupidity of light warping into the ship, yoda coming in for a cheap laugh, the "can you hear me now" bit, the cheapening of Chewbacca and Yoda, it was like they were whoring out the original characters to be fricked right in front of our eyes. Think South Park's Indiana Jones episode and that's how I feel about this disgraceful film. frick, people still clapped at the end.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 1:19 pm to Tiguar
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Obi didn't have the benefit of exposing Luke to the force early- he had to deal with the hand he was dealt.
Yes he did. He had him in his arms as a baby.
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