re: Star Wars Episode 8: The Last Jedi Discussion Thread ***SPOILERS***

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I see where you're coming from but just disagree


We have Ben Solo. He has that strong Skywalker blood. Has a family. Yet he chooses to be evil. That wasn't enough.


You have Rey. Who comes from nothing. The Force chooses her to be the light to battle Ren's darkness.


The inverse of their relationship is pretty interesting to me but understand it isn't for everyone.

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See above, I just don't think they earned it. It seems too constructed, and not natural in THIS film. Not that there isn't a story there. Like I said, I think TFA was good, not, but had a ton of potential for the series moving forward. But TLJ just didn't carry it forward well.

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See above, I just don't think they earned it. It seems too constructed, and not natural in THIS film. Not that there isn't a story there. Like I said, I think TFA was good, not, but had a ton of potential for the series moving forward. But TLJ just didn't carry it forward well.

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Fair enough.

Yes and also influenced by the light. It’s mentioned multiple times in the movie. He chose his side at the end.

Michael B. Jordon and Jesse Plemons were finalists for Finn.

Here ya go

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Michael B. Jordon and Jesse Plimpkin were finalists for Finn.

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I think Boyega's a decent actor, actually, I just also think he isn't given enough to work with and that the creators have 0 faith in him being a competent character. So we get this terrible, boring, character. Their direction to him must be bad as well, because he hams it up a lot compared to everyone else.

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Fair enough.

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Imagine this real quick,

Let's say TFA is a true ensemble film. Focus on Poe Dameron and his squadron of pilots which includes this girl Rey. Give everyone equal screen time (you know for the most part), rewrite the story without the focus on Rey, for now and make it simply about Poe and his team trying to get the lightsaber and find where Luke is. More of a "chase" movie. Leave most of the rebel stuff out. You can still bring in Han and Chewy that way.

Put in some interesting moments where things don't go as planned, but they always seem to work out, drop "clues" very deftly about Rey wherever you can.

Then Poe and a few members from his team finally find Luke at the end....Poe goes to hand the saber to Luke and Luke says...

"You aren't supposed to give this to me....." Pan to Rey, fade to black.

Something like that. Mapping Rey's story to Luke's only to then make sure she's NOT like Luke was just a waste of time. If you wanted a "New Hero," then you should have made a "New Hero," someone unlike Luke, who was already in the resistance. Someone maybe even who came from Weapon Traders and saw wrong in it, if we were going to play up the Arms Dealers in these films. Someone who just "never knew" but was doing the right thing anyway. That could have been compelling.

Doing the "Luke" thing and then pivoting so quickly wasn't interesting imo. There were way better ways to get to this point.

Why are you apologizing to me?

Was the board this bad after TFA?

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I think the storyline and connection between Ren and Rey is pretty interesting. Just my opinion there.

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I think it's a good idea took but they don't execute it well. Snoke's existence flies in the face of the whole "balanced" idea, as does Luke's speech. So if we are trying to do away with the idea of the "balanced" force, then why do these two have such a connection?

There's a good story there, but given the other choices, they just don't tap into it imo.