re: Star Wars Episode 8: The Last Jedi Discussion Thread ***SPOILERS***

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I enjoyed it. I think it comes from me accepting that we have to move on from the old star wars. That magic is its own and it is up to Disney to recapture it not sure if they can.

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Then don't have Chewie, Akbar, Yoda, Leia, Luke, Han, etc in the damn trilogy. The original idea was 9 films with these as central characters. Disney knew they wanted to thrill by adding the excitement of bringing them back, only to toss them aside like lint

Just set this trilogy for 10 years later, when these originals arent a part of the political scene. Or finish the original 9, and introduce these characters slowly in the final trilogy, to let them grow, and make us interested in what happens to them down the road

Frankly, I just don't care anymore

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I enjoyed it. I think it comes from me accepting that we have to move on from the old star wars. That magic is its own and it is up to Disney to recapture it not sure if they can.

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shite in the face of the fans and kill the original characters and tell us we are the problem? GTFO...don’t include them. “We killed them and it’s time for you to move on”
No, no sir...frick You and frick Them

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I mean shite I was pretty well entertained but this movie just fell well short of the mark for a what a star wars movie should be.

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Within 24 hours the “pretty well entertained” will subside. Your opinions resonate 100% with me.

I thought the movie was highly-entertaining and well-acted.

The plot was fantastic, however I wasn’t a fan of Leia’s space scene..

I don’t think Rey’s parental situation is resolved. Kylo was either trolling or wrong.

The absolute BEST combat/fight scenes of any Star Wars film to date. Royal Guard scene had me jacked.

Don’t understand all the hate in this thread, but then again I didn’t walk into the theatre with any pre-conceived notions about how the film would play out and I actually prefer some comic relief.

RIP Luke..

8.5/10
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Same here.

I'm almost 100% sure the reasons I didn't like had more to do with what they didn't do than what they did do. The Force Awakens left us with many lingering questions. One of which was what exactly was the First Order? I thought for sure the scenes with Luke and Rey would be used for exposition to explain just where Snoke and the First Order came from and how Ben Solo was pulled away from the Jedi and into the realm of the Dark Side.

Instead of training her and becoming our window into the universe that Disney created with the sequel trilogy, he completely blows her off. The only lessons he teaches her have to do with why she shouldn't be a Jedi and why she should just forget about everything. The man has become a manic depressive. Which I would have been fine with had he gotten real redemption. The way they ended his arc was sloppily done and really spit on his character.

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Within 24 hours the “pretty well entertained” will subside. Your opinions resonate 100% with me.

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Yep and this is a pretty big one too that I saw posted in another thread.

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I still know very little about what is going on in the larger context of the galaxy. In the OT, you got a sense of just how expansive and powerful the Empire truly was. They let you know through little lines of dialogue that they had absolute control of the galaxy, sans those star systems in open rebellion.

The sequel trilogy has done almost zilch to explain who the First Order is, where they come from, how they got started, and what their motivations are. Apparently at the beginning of TFA there was a Republic that controlled galactic governance. But if that is so, why was there a Resistance movement independent from that of the Republic? Wouldn't the First Order be something of an insurrectionist movement and therefore wouldn't the Resistance be the military arm of the Republic, fighting to defeat Snoke and his minions?

Where's the world building? Where's the context?

And that's just one of many problems I am having with this trilogy so far. Because the failures of The Last Jedi have weakened the effectiveness of The Force Awakens IMO. No questions were answered, no characters developed. They all stayed the same.

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For all of the shite that the prequels get, at least they did a hell of a lot for world building and setting the backstory for the originals.

All we're told is that in these two movies that the first order has somehow taken control of the galaxy and and the resistance is still fighting on with no mention of how Snoke and the first order came to be. That's it.

Part of what made Star Wars great was that George Lucas did not ignore the politics of what would spark and eventually keep an intergalactic war going.

Trade routes and taxes anyone?

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All we're told is that in these two movies that the first order has somehow taken control of the galaxy and and the resistance is still fighting on with no mention of how Snoke and the first order came to be. That's it.

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At the end of the movie my thought was “Well didn’t the Resistance and the First Order just eliminate each other?” Like 95% plus of both of their forces are seemingly obliterated in this movie.

It would be as if Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia destroyed both of their entire armies in Stalingrad, not to mention both of their leaders. The Allies would just look at that and run them over effortlessly. Like who cares what they think and what they stood for?

Ok, I'm going to see this tonight at 9:30. Terrible spoiler info or not, it's Star Wars, and I have to see for myself

Wish me luck

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GeauxxxTigers23

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You were infuriated watching the women on the bridge making battle decisions (that were admiringly stupid) and the ugly and weird borderline lesbian scene in the docking bay weren't you?

No wonder we're completely opposed to women in combat and running the military. This movie is a great reinforcement of that opposition and SJWs have no clue.

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shite in the face of the fans and kill the original characters and tell us we are the problem?

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I actually have no problem with them killing off the big three. I figured that once the new trilogy was announced, it was going to happen one of two ways - kill them off all in VII or kill them off one per new episode.

I have zero problem with Luke dying. I have a problem with how he went out and how they really didn't use Rey at all at the end of the film.