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re: Star Wars Episode 8: The Last Jedi Discussion Thread ***SPOILERS***

Posted on 12/16/17 at 8:49 pm to
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 8:49 pm to
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It would be as if Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia destroyed both of their entire armies in Stalingrad, not to mention both of their leaders. The Allies would just look at that and run them over effortlessly. Like who cares what they think and what they stood for?


The allies are a third party in your historical scenario and there's no third party in the episode 8, just the resistance and first order.
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 8:51 pm to
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Wait you haven’t seen it yet? Haven’t you been defending it?



If so, he's a great example of the difference between reading spoilers and/or the script itself and then watching the actual movie itself being acted out.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 8:51 pm to
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Scoob
Wait you haven’t seen it yet? Haven’t you been defending it?

No, that wasn't me

There's a poster goes by Scoop, I think he's the one. Might be why I've gotten drive-by blasted a few times

I guess I got to put an avatar or something up.
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 8:52 pm to
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I leaned over to my son and said “You know this is just a movie right? Women can’t really be in charge of starships.”



You're a great father.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 8:52 pm to
Nah I’m pretty sure I’ve argued with you about something recently
Posted by Oxford Ways
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 8:54 pm to
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I'm about to jump into the Rebels series and hopefully it will be just as good.


It starts off pretty bad, but it picks up by season 2. (not as good as the clone wars series though)
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 8:54 pm to
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The allies are a third party in your historical scenario and there's no third party in the episode 8, just the resistance and first order.


If the Republic is anything like it is in the prequels (despite their relative Washington or Northeast coast being blown up), then why the frick can’t they? This is a Zack Snyder oversight not fathoming that there are other things at work off screen that should be obvious to anyone with a brain.
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Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 8:57 pm to
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Nah I’m pretty sure I’ve argued with you about something recently

Don't think so, not about this movie. I was so geeked up to see this that I couldn't resist peeking at a spoiler, and what I read makes me cringe.

But like I said, I've got to go out there and see for myself... I guess it's like hearing your wife is cheating on you at some bar, and you have to go down there and see it in real life.

OK, fixing to leave. Back in a few hours
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 8:57 pm to
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It starts off pretty bad, but it picks up by season 2.


Clone wars was the same too with the first season being the villain of the week but they eventually figured out that multi part episodes was the way to go and that's what made the laters seasons so great.

Season 6 i.e. the lost missions was supposed to be a full season of like 25 episodes but they cut it in half to 13 episodes.
Posted by Oxford Ways
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:02 pm to
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Season 6 i.e. the lost missions was supposed to be a full season of like 25 episodes but they cut it in half to 13 episodes.


I think that's because Disney couldn't finish the season after buying Star Wars since Time Warner (CN) had a stake in the Clone Wars series.
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:02 pm to
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If the Republic is anything like it is in the prequels (despite their relative Washington or Northeast coast being blown up), then why the frick can’t they?


This assumes that all of the republic wasn't based on Coruscant and had shipyards and colonies elsewhere and I just doubt that.

That's another gripe I have about this new trilogy too. I loved the hell out of Coruscant as it was the engine of world building that made the high stakes of Star Wars really make its presence known.

I'm pissed Coruscant is gone.
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:03 pm to
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I think that's because Disney couldn't finish the season after buying Star Wars since Time Warner (CN) had a stake in the Clone Wars series.



Surely, they could've done some contract and/or settlement where disney paid time warner to finish the season?

It's just 13 more episodes. How hard was that?
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:04 pm to
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This assumes that all of the republic wasn't based on Coruscant and had shipyards and colonies elsewhere and I just doubt that.


No, it just assumes that they have a standing population, guns, and ships. When the First Order is destroyed by that degree, there for sure should be a radical uprising without giving a frick about the First Order or the Resistance. Given that the First Order just took over last fricking week, it’s hard to believe.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:05 pm to
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The allies are a third party in your historical scenario and there's no third party in the episode 8, just the resistance and first order.



In The Force Awakens, there was a third party. The Republic. But the First Order destroyed those systems loyal to the Republic with their weapon from Star Killer Base. So my question becomes: where was the Republic in this conflict before they got wiped out? How come they weren't helping the Resistance fight the First Order?
Posted by Oxford Ways
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:06 pm to
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It's just 13 more episodes. How hard was that?


Oh I agree. I didn't like the Clone Wars at first, but it got really good as the seasons went on. It was a shame that it went out the way that it did. So incomplete.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:08 pm to
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But the First Order destroyed those systems loyal to the Republic with their weapon from Star Killer Base. So my question becomes: where was the Republic in this conflict before they got wiped out? How come they weren't helping the Resistance fight the First Order?


This isn’t even worth the question. Unless there’s an unlinear timeline in the movie (granted a possibility) where the Resistance doesn’t abandon their base for many months, then the First Order hasn’t even arrived on almost any world to dictate their policies yet. Episodes VII and VIII seemingly take place over 2 weeks.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:18 pm to
Jeremy Jahns I’ve long considered a hack, but he did bitch nonstop about TLJ in his review and refused to give it a score saying he’ll save it for his Spoiler Review. He knows this is a piece of shite and is just waiting for his audience to agree with him before his review. It’s cowardice but bravery in the hands of Jahns. I’ve always assumed he looked at his comments section and Tomatometer before ever giving his review, but he’s going against it for once.
Posted by Civildawg
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:23 pm to
The angry joe people rip this movie to shreds and they ask/complain about all the things i am pissed about as well. They understand why we are all pissed at this movie.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:26 pm to
About to be downvoted to hell but......after seeing TLJ and TFA, I now have more of an appreciation for the prequel trilogy. While it could be awful at some times, they truly did set up how the empire came to power. It told a story, while painful at times. When it’s all said and done and you watch all the Star Wars movies from episode 1 to episode 9, I think it might potentially all come together nicely as one story.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:27 pm to
Just got out

It wasn't a shite movie but it completely whiffed on elevating the franchise. Seems like Johnson had no direction with that he wanted to do besides throwing in a ton of women leaders
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