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re: Spike Lee's "Blackkklansman" Tomatometer watch - 97%

Posted on 8/8/18 at 9:45 am to
Posted by Cow Drogo
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 8/8/18 at 9:45 am to
Hmmm just like “get out” and “Black panther” gettin like 100%
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84671 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 9:52 am to
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My bigger point was the views the KKK had are still alive today in different groups under different names.


These groups are minuscule in numbers and have no power. They’re not oppressing anyone, as much as they’d like to. Sorry that you’re not as oppressed as you’d like to be.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:09 am to
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These groups are minuscule in numbers and have no power.
Compared to their heyday? You are right. To say that they don't have any power at all rather naive.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:12 am to
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Sorry that you’re not as oppressed as you’d like to be.



You're the one acting oppressed complaining about being "beat over the head" with historical movies about the black plight in this country.

But I bet you loved Saving Private Ryan - a movie with no basis in current reality.
Posted by ElroyJetSon
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
4018 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:14 am to
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Boo! 2 a Madea Halloween has 6% on the tomatometer. They must have forgotten to take their pandering pills for that one.


Hahah what an insane comparison
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8641 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:19 am to
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Uh, one of them(David Duke) that's featured in this movie very publicly endorsed our current president's campaign. And our president did little to distance himself from that endorsement. And while it didn't have the name KKK attached to it, what happened in Charlotteville last year had a very strong undercurrent of white supremacy and racism. So yes, racism does have a basis in current reality.


Did what happen in Dallas and Baton Rouge and DC have "a very strong undercurrent" of black supremacism or radical leftism? Did what happen in Orlando and San Berdardino and Paris three separate times and London and West Street and on and on and on and on demonstrate "a very strong undercurrent" of Salafist jihadism in the West?

You view the world through a narrow prism. I suggest you expand that prism.

For the record, I don't think much of Lee, but I like the cast here, and I thought the previews looked really good.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61475 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:19 am to
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Didn't Trump say he didn't want Duke's endorsement?




He had to be brow beaten into that by the media and politicians after pretending he didn't know who Duke was.
This post was edited on 8/8/18 at 10:20 am
Posted by ElroyJetSon
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
4018 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:22 am to
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It's pretty on brand for this forum

Oh shut the frick up
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
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Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:24 am to
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ElroyJetSon
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:27 am to
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No one supports the KKK.

Yeah imma call bullshite on that one
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
51919 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:31 am to
LINK
The right-wing bastion Politico says he turned down Duke's support before the Republican primaries

This movie will be worth a watch. The story by itself is nuts and Spike is a good director no matter what his politics are.
Posted by ElroyJetSon
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
4018 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:36 am to
I don’t what that means. Is he pretending to throw his feces like an ape?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:43 am to
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Yeah imma call bullshite on that one



Uhhhhh...the KKK's current estimated numbers are extremely, extremely small.

It has become a boogeyman of the left recently but its largely irrelevant. There are much, much larger hate groups out there.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:46 am to
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You view the world through a narrow prism.





Not sure how you came to that conclusion that from my post you quoted, but whatever.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:58 am to
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Uhhhhh...the KKK's current estimated numbers are extremely, extremely small.

In some aspects you are right and wrong. Clearly, people don't want to be associated with the old-school vision of the group because it's become a bit of a joke.

With that being said, you are pretty much ignoring League of the South, NSM & the Jason Kessler/Richard Spencer/Jared Taylor following.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8641 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 11:01 am to
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You view the world through a narrow prism.





Not sure how you came to that conclusion that from my post you quoted, but whatever.



Well, you certainly didn't refute my point and that tired old trope of "Charlottesville, the President, blah, blah" tends to come from people who have a very specific worldview and don't deviate much from it in my experience.

Back to the point at hand, what do you think the reaction would be among the glitterati if someone made a movie demonizing Micah Johnson and Gavin Long to the hilt or taking James Hodgkinson and everything he believed in and the movement he supposedly stood for to task? Or how about a movie that implied that police shootings are about in line with what one would expect given the racial composition and criminal history of the age group most likely to be in those situations in the first place? And that 999 police encounters out of a 1,000 that get violent involve many shades of gray that have virtually nothing to do with the race of the person involved. How about a movie about the extreme rise in violence in Chicago after the 2016 Laquan McDonald incident in which police backed off and resulted in the city having a 50+% higher murder rate?

Do you think those movies even get made? You and I both know the answer to that.

That's why I can understand the skepticism behind rave reviews to movies like that. I'll grant that Driver, Grace, and Washington are a good trio to work with.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 11:22 am to
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Well, you certainly didn't refute my point



I'm not sure you had one other than to post a bunch of whataboutism.


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that tired old trope of "Charlottesville, the President, blah, blah"


I posted that in response to another poster claiming the views of the KKK had no basis in reality today. Sorry I didn't type out a longer treatise on all the problems in the world today so as to avoid being labeled narrow minded. I was trying to keep the discussion on topic.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8641 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 11:29 am to
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Well, you certainly didn't refute my point



I'm not sure you had one other than to post a bunch of whataboutism.



Ah, another tired old trope. Again, nothing new under the sun.

They have as much basis in reality today as the old Trotskyites of the 1920's and the BLA of the 1970's.

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that tired old trope of "Charlottesville, the President, blah, blah"


I posted that in response to another poster claiming the views of the KKK had no basis in reality today. Sorry I didn't type out a longer treatise on all the problems in the world today so as to avoid being labeled narrow minded. I was trying to keep the discussion on topic.


Again, where are the movies about radical leftists and the militant black supremacists? Do those views have a basis in reality today?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87981 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 11:42 am to
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To say that they don't have any power at all rather naive.
You're saying the KKK and its current equivalents have legitimate power/influence? Or by "power" do you simply mean that they exist and are a flame for a few ignorant psychos?
Posted by Big_Slim
Mogadishu
Member since Apr 2016
3979 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 12:06 pm to
This shite is so boring now. I’m not offended, I’m just bored.

There are probably 30 actual KKK guys left in America. Don’t we have more compelling subjects to center all of our art around than fricking oppression? It’s just exhausting.
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