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re: Someone explain wanting to remake good movies to me

Posted on 6/7/13 at 5:20 pm to
Posted by Dr. Zoidberg
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 5:20 pm to
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I don't understand this concept


Hollywood saw the original made money. So they want to do it again.

hollywood has basically given up being original because people will still buy tickets
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 5:22 pm to
the shitty remakes that earn studios money allows them to also make really good films

I love when people complain about stuff that has zero effect on their life whatsoever.

Don't want to see a remake? great! don't fricking watch it
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
22312 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 5:22 pm to
Don't some studios have to pump out a new movie for a franchise ever certain number of years to keep the rights to it? I think I've heard something like this with certain Marvel Characters and the Star Wars movies.
Posted by Mullen3:16
Nerlins, LA
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 5:22 pm to
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Bonfire Of The Vanities


Always liked the opening sequence

LINK
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 5:23 pm to
$$$$$
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73846 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 5:23 pm to
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Don't some studios have to pump out a new movie for a franchise ever certain number of years to keep the rights to it?
yea, see the shitty Fantastic 4 movie made like 20 years ago that was never released
Posted by Dr. Zoidberg
Member since May 2013
517 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 5:33 pm to
Agreed.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 5:35 pm to
I thought I made it clear I wasn't talking about studios wanting to make money, but clearly I failed

My question is: Why do some audience members think an "old" movie is good, yet they still want to see it remade?

My original suspicion, that this generation is obsessed with SPFX, is confirmed by several posts in this thread.
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 5:57 pm to
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I don't understand this concept



I don't get it either. I the amount of times you get a remake that's as good much less better than the original is the rare exception and not the rule.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
62963 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 8:29 pm to
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What is the point?
You're joking, right?

ETA: It makes what the audience found good/entertaining when they were younger relevant to their current lives, whether it's to validate what they liked then or to modernize the story, making it more relevant to today. All of the bullshite about the remake being "more true to the book" is just that. Yeah, how'd that work out for Charlie and the Chocolate Factory?

And some are considered the best of the story iterations, don't forget, like The Thing and Invasion of the Body Snatchers. I also liked both Oceans 11 movies, but I prefer the remake.
This post was edited on 6/7/13 at 8:39 pm
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
154046 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 9:43 pm to
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And some are considered the best of the story iterations, don't forget, like The Thing and Invasion of the Body Snatchers
Not by me. I don't like the Thing remake and while the '78 IOTBS is good I -- and most critics that I'm aware of -- prefer the original.

And motherfricker never -- I mean NEVER -- use the word "iteration" around me again



Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
62963 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 10:10 pm to
The Thing that I mean is the Kurt Russell one, not the original or the recent piece of shite. I'm guessing you already knew that. Just making sure.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67413 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 11:19 pm to
quote:

My question is: Why do some audience members think an "old" movie is good, yet they still want to see it remade?

My original suspicion, that this generation is obsessed with SPFX, is confirmed by several posts in this thread.


I tend to agree with you for the most part.

And it makes zero sense to me that a masterpiece should be remade to make it more "relevant" to today. That makes almost no sense if you really analyze it.

Now there are a couple of remakes that I have gone to see out of pure curiosity. For example, I was curious to see what would be done with "Red Dragon" as a "remake" of "Manhunter". Actually, "Red Dragon" was somewhat closer to the book, but "Manhunter" is the superior film, imo.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 6/7/13 at 11:22 pm to
If it's old it could make for a good movie, and because they are running out of stuff to make movies about apparently.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19013 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 1:03 am to
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I'd venture to guess nostalgia


This, and making it relevant to current tastes. I'm 27 and hate 80s movies, because I can't relate to the humor, the style, etc. I love remakes for this reason, provided they aren't a complete pile of shite.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67413 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 7:38 am to
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This, and making it relevant to current tastes. I'm 27 and hate 80s movies, because I can't relate to the humor, the style, etc. I love remakes for this reason, provided they aren't a complete pile of shite.


In that case, in the end, you're not even talking about the same movie
Posted by Michael T. Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2004
8798 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:47 am to
Because younger people, on the whole, aren't going to go see an "old" movie at a theater, and a large segment of the population who saw a movie when it first came out aren't going to pay to go see it again.

Personally, I hate classics being remade, and to this point, I have refused to watch many of them (Psycho, The Manchurian Candidate, The Karate Kid, Red Dawn to name a few). But I also did enjoy the remake of Night of the Living Dead way back in 1989. Sometimes it works, sometimes a smart movie is turned into crap (The Jackal). I can see the reasoning some time.

It does make me wonder though why we are completely okay with different versions of great plays and musicals, but remakes of movies are taboo to many. I include myself in that latter group.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67413 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 9:12 am to
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It does make me wonder though why we are completely okay with different versions of great plays and musicals, but remakes of movies are taboo to many. I include myself in that latter group.


Interesting point, but I think they're different art forms. Live vs. film for one thing. Give me a few and I'll be able to articulate the difference more clearly . . . maybe.
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4119 posts
Posted on 6/8/13 at 10:34 am to
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t does make me wonder though why we are completely okay with different versions of great plays and musicals, but remakes of movies are taboo to many.

Well, it's a little hard to see that great 1939 stage version exactly as it was...

There is nothing inherently wrong with remakes as long as they are done for the right creative reasons. The problem today is that many are done today for what is perceived as risk management. It's compounded because it seems to me that many are being done too quickly.

First impressions matter. The version you see first tends to be the one you like best. A remake, especially one done with no real creative reason, will pale next to a version that is still somewhat fresh in the minds of the majority, especially with the access people have today. That creative vision has to be significantly different to make it satisfying and that is really difficult.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 6/9/13 at 2:16 pm to
I like seeing different perspectives on source material. I enjoyed the Planet of the Apes book, the original, and the recent new movie. All took the story in different directions.
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