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re: ‘Solo: A Star Wars Story’ Tracking for a Huge Opening Weekend (updated w/first reactions)

Posted on 5/8/18 at 7:58 pm to
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 7:58 pm to
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One single movie cannot sink Star Wars


Who said anything about ONE movie SINKING Star Wars? I specifically mentioned that TWO could damage it.

Reading is hard
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 7:32 am to
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If you don't like sucking cock, you have a problem. Or are triggered. I love smearing the semen all over my face.



I can’t believe it, but we’ve found a poster gayer than Toddy.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:01 am to
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don't understand the point of this movie.


It’s an origin type movie of iconic characters. Sounds awesome.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:04 am to
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It’s an origin type movie of iconic characters.


Like Dumb and Dumber: When Harry met Lloyd?
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:31 am to
Embargo update...


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Solo review embargo is lifting early, and that’s really good news.

This week brought word that the review embargo for Solo will be lifted on May 15th, which is a week ahead of the film’s release. That’s extremely good news and a show of faith by Disney that the movie isn’t going to suck.

Hearing that the embargo will be lifting early should fill fans with a certain amount of confidence. It doesn’t, however, guarantee universal praise.




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Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:36 am to
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It’s an origin type movie of iconic characters.



Like Dumb and Dumber: When Harry met Lloyd?


well played.

Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:37 am to
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Did you see him in Hail, Caesar!?

Ehrenreich and Fiennes were the only great things in the film.


He was amazing in Hail, Caesar.

I think he did all those stunts too.



But Hail, Caesar was pretty fun all around.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:48 am to
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that’s really good news.


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That’s extremely good news


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show of faith by Disney that the movie isn’t going to suck.



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should fill fans with a certain amount of confidence


Screams desperation to me. But to each his own.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:15 am to
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It’s an origin type movie of iconic characters. Sounds awesome.


Sounds like an attempt to open a cash register to me.

But...let's just say you need to see a young Han Solo for some unknown reason...fine. Disney could have done that. Here's what you do...

You create a NEW story, with NEW characters set before Star Wars (A New Hope) by a decade or so. After all...there really were other people and happenings going on in the galaxy that did not revolve around the Skywalker family and the handful of main characters we've known since 1977. Assume that's true and make up one...and I'm thinking most Star Wars fans could be in and interested in seeing a new portion of a universe we know so well.

And...maybe one scene takes place at the Kessel Run or something. Give the story a reason to intersect with Solo for 15 or 20 minutes maybe...just a little taste. And instead of either doing him in CGI to age down Ford or hiring some asshat to do his own thing, you hire THIS GUY to do his Han Solo impersonation...

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Instead, Disney simply went back and dragged our favorite characters entirely out of mothballs AGAIN and we're going to see an entire movie that basically just shows us all the things we already knew about based on what Solo told us about himself for three movies. I had no need to actually see them...I had imagined them already thanks to good storytelling previously.

Disney has an entire universe to work with and yet that can't or won't go further than a handful of characters. It's exactly what South Park nailed them for...

Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:16 am to
You get it.

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They're falling into the same trap the prequels fell into. Instead of making a completely unique story, they're trying to cash in on and lazily expound upon parts of the story that are already established.

If they wanted to make a Solo movie they should've made it with no other established characters or plot lines outside of Han. Instead the whole movie you're just waiting to see something that you already know happens.

You know he gets the Falcon.
You know he screws over Lando at some point
You know he and Chewey and Lando live.
You know he's the best pilot with the best ship.
You know he's an established smuggler.
You know he's going to stupidly cliché repeat shite like "I have a bad feeling about this"

There's no point to showing all that shite.

They could've just made a story about Han and a random heist by himself in a random ship. Craft an entire new world. Create their own stories. Meaningfully add to the legend instead of watering it down. Make up a new ship and new characters. But that takes risk and creativity and effort. Something Kathleen Kennedy and her studio don't understand. So they'll just dump out some corporate by committee garbage and bank on the Star wars name to make it profitable

The other problem I have with this movie is the trailer makes it look like Han Solo's entire backstory seems to have taken place in like a week.

He meets Chewey, meets Lando, gets the Falcon, joins the smuggling life, and does the Kessel Run all in the span of a couple days and it's the first thing he does as an adult when he leaves his parents house.

His life wasn't a long and rich history of smuggling and meeting people and upgrading ships and finding a friend in chewy, etc... Where he learns lessons and becomes a better pilot and mechanic and smuggler, and developing depth to his character and morals, etc... No. His entire life's backstory happened to him all at the same time all in the span of a couple days right at the beginning of his life. Then he spent the next 30 years just as a smuggler with no development and no learning and no changes until he meets Luke.
This post was edited on 5/9/18 at 10:33 am
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:52 am to
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create a NEW story, with NEW characters set before Star Wars (A New Hope) by a decade or so.


Isn’t that what this is? Woody and Emilia Clark are totally new characters, and they play a role in a new story.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:58 am to
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Isn’t that what this is?


It doesn't appear to be. Han, Lando, Chewey, the Falcon, the Kessel Run, etc...
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 11:05 am to
So no new characters........besides the new characters. Gotcha. I bet there are also gonna be new things Introduced as well.

Full disclosure: I love origin stories that haven’t been done before and I imagine most others do too.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 11:24 am to
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Full disclosure: I love origin stories that haven’t been done before


You loved all these movies:

Phantom Menace
Attack of the Clones
Revenge of the Sith
The Scorpion King
Oz: The great and powerful
300: Rise of an Empire
Xmen Origins Wolverine
Dumb and Dumber: When Harry met Lloyd
The Flintstones: Viva Rock Vegas
Posted by Smoke7024
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 11:25 am to
I haven't really sat down to think about why, but I have zero desire to see this movie.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 11:45 am to
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Isn’t that what this is? Woody and Emilia Clark are totally new characters, and they play a role in a new story.


No, it's the reverse of what I suggested. It's the Han Solo backstory with other characters thrown in to fill up the space. Put another way, would this movie be made without Han Solo in it at all? Is the story good enough, interesting enough, different enough, without bringing back one of the core three, or is it just everything we already know about Han brought to life with a new actor and some fluff added in to fill in the dead space?

This was my biggest beef with TFA as well. Had they simply moved 200 years into the future and told nearly the exact same story but made Kylo not related to anyone, actually given the New Order some time to get big again after the Empire lost instead of hurriedly doing it in 35+ years and allowed all of the old characters to have just died in their good time off screen like they would have in 200 years...then we'd have been able to move on with entirely new stories and not have been in the position of having to service or destroy Leia's and Luke's legendary statuses once again in TLJ.

Whole galaxy to work with...still mining same old characters.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 11:49 am to
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You know he gets the Falcon.
You know he screws over Lando at some point
You know he and Chewey and Lando live.
You know he's the best pilot with the best ship.
You know he's an established smuggler.
You know he's going to stupidly cliché repeat shite like "I have a bad feeling about this"


Yep...

Now, had they been able to make that movie as a stand alone back in 1985 or something and have Harrison Ford look younger, somehow, than he had in A New Hope then 15 year old me would have been on board with that.

But now? With a new actor who will now have more lines and screen time as Han Solo than Harrison Ford did in all three of the original trilogy movies combined?

Posted by Argonaut
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Posted on 5/10/18 at 7:21 am to
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Isn’t that what this is?


Yes.

No one knows anything about the characters outside of the three that are almost requirements for the story.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 5/10/18 at 8:13 am to
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I thought you guys said TLJ broke Star Wars
I can't speak for anyone else, but TLJ broke me of Star Wars.

I don't care about where the story is headed anymore. Everything I liked about the series was violently raped in front of me.

I may watch Solo when it hits HBO or Netflix, but I can't see myself paying to watch it.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 5/10/18 at 8:18 am to
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One single movie cannot sink Star Wars and no it doesn't damage the franchise nearly as bad as the prequels
TLJ honestly made me yearn for the prequels
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