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re: 'Snow White' Discussion Thread: Tomatometer @ 46%. Opens at 87 mil WW

Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:22 pm to
Posted by RobbBobb
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:22 pm to
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If I go pay a guy to make a movie tomorrow and it makes $4 billion and I make a 1,000% return on my investment that's not a success for me?

Are you trying to claim credit for the characters in the book? Because that was what your 2024 list was inferring. Look at all these movies that Disney made, that were so successful. All while attempting to defend the failure of CA and SW currently

Circling back to the point of this thread. Disney Studios hasnt been in the business of making good DISNEY based movies in decades. They pay others to generate their stories. Inside Out, Deadpool, Wolverine, and Snow White are the proof of that

Snow White is their tent pole property. Still the highest grossing adjusted Disney Film in history. And they blew the live action version. The other characters made bank. Because Disney didnt create them
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1 Gone with the Wind 1939
2 Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope 1977
3 The Sound of Music 1965
4 E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial 1982
5 Titanic 1997
6 The Ten Commandments 1956
7 Jaws 1975
8 Doctor Zhivago 1965
9 The Exorcist 1973
10 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs 1937
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:33 pm to
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That quote disgusts me since a woman was brutally murdered
that wasn't the cause

Posted by Corinthians420
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:35 pm to
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Are you trying to claim credit for the characters in the book? Because that was what your 2024 list was inferring. Look at all these movies that Disney made, that were so successful.

I posted that the 3 movies that made the most money last year were Disney movies in response to you saying
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It will do a decent opening then fall off a cliff once word of mouth gets out of its dogshit, just like every other Disney & Marvel project over the last 3 yrs.

You continuing to argue that Inside Out 2 wasn't a Disney project is hilarious. You are in denial.

Now you stretching that to say that no movie Disney was ever a partner in was a Disney project is just showing that you have no integrity or no sense.
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 8:42 pm
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:51 pm to
I wonder how you can get contacted to get paid for these positive reviews. I wonder how much of the ad budget is paid reviews. They tried to astroturf the acolyte too
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:56 pm to
It is up to 49% with 94 reviews in.

If it breaks 50%, will the shills say "over half the reviews say it is good"? That always gives me a chuckle.

Sometimes I think I am the only one who understands RT scores
Posted by Corinthians420
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:15 pm to
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It is up to 49% with 94 reviews in.

If it breaks 50%, will the shills say "over half the reviews say it is good"? That always gives me a chuckle.

Sometimes I think I am the only one who understands RT scores

I think it depends on one's definition of "good"

I'd say a 6 or 7 out of 10 is good, 8 is great, 9 is excellent, 10 is brilliant.

The Electric State is sitting at 15% RT critic score and 73% audience score. Would you say that movie is good? It won't get any 10/10 or even many 9/10 scores. but if most people that watch it think it is a 6 or 7/10 is it good?
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 9:22 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:37 pm to
It means 50% said the movie is anywhere from functionally watchable, and not broken. . .to really good/great

That is what a fresh rating means

Rotten rating ALWAYS means it sucks

49% RT score means 51% of reviewers thought the movie sucked

49% of reviewers felt it was at least a generally functional film

the 5.5/10 average is the better tale of the tape. a 6/10 movie is considered mediocre for an indie film. For an expensive major release from a major studio, it is considered bad.

You can hypothetically have a 100% RT score with a 6/10 average
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 9:38 pm
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:38 pm to
Shills gonna shill
Posted by Corinthians420
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:46 pm to
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49% of reviewers felt it was at least a generally functional film

I think you have this wrong.

a positive RT rating means you enjoyed watching the movie, not that it was functional.

The movie The Shape of Water was perfectly functional as a movie (it won best picture), I didn't enjoy watching it so I gave it a negative review
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You can hypothetically have a 100% RT score with a 6/10 average

yes and that would mean everyone that watched the movie enjoyed it. I think that sounds like a good movie, even if not great.
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 9:51 pm
Posted by Upperdecker
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:50 pm to
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It means 50% said the movie is anywhere from functionally watchable, and not broken. . .to really good/great That is what a fresh rating means Rotten rating ALWAYS means it sucks

This is how critics use it. The audience score is much more good vs bad
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:15 pm to
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This is how critics use it. The audience score is much more good vs bad
Yes. That is correct

thinking a fresh review means they definitely like it is laughably false. It CAN mean that.

There were FRESH reviews from The Last Jedi that gave it 2/5

I had a looooong post linking all that shite way back in the day
Posted by Corinthians420
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:21 pm to
The critics aren't using the same system either. you have critics giving movies a 3/5 rating in their review and calling a film fresh and then others calling a film 3/5 and calling it rotten.

I've also seen 2.5/4 Rotten ratings which would be a 6/10 and I would consider good on my scale. Just proves the only true way to judge a film is to watch it yourself.

example: these scores are right next to each other
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 10:42 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:33 pm to
Just a heads up.

There are certain posters in this thread that have no clue what they are talking about, but they need to get the last word. That word is plagiarized verbatim from Reddit, more often than not. But they need it to be last.

It is best to just let them have it, we all know who they are and what they are about. Engaging with them is fruitless.
Posted by BuckeyeWarrior
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Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:41 am to
At this point, I’m convinced that these ultra high-budget CGI fest films are all money laundering schemes by corporate film studios. The executives know damn well that all of these films are rushed, unoriginal, uncreative pieces of shite that no one will remember years from now.
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 9:42 am
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:44 am to
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At this point, I’m convinced that these ultra high-budget CGI fest films are all money laundering schemes by corporate film studios.


+1 that new Netflix film, the electric state, supposedly has a budget of 320 million. Wtf
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 10:07 am
Posted by dewster
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:03 am to
The average age of Snow White's target audience (4-7 years old) probably struggles to sit through a movie theater for more than 45 minutes to watch it anyways.

Let's see if it draws people to Disney+ long term. They can't afford a massive failure here. Snow White put them on the map originally. The latest version shouldn't just be a worse, poorly executed remake of a classic with some modern woke stuff sprinkled in.

Unfortunately that's sort of the reputation Disney has cultivated lately. I think their old stuff is what is keeping their streaming service alive. But a lot of people aren't going to take the family to see something that will likely piss off the parents and disappoint the kids.

They really can't afford to frick up Frozen 3. That's a massive, successful franchise for them with a big fan base.
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 10:08 am
Posted by BuckeyeWarrior
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Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:12 am to
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+1 that new Netflix film, the electric state, supposedly has a budget of 320 million. Wtf


The traditional mid-budget film is dead. The market is now dominated by ultra-high budget CGI fests, shitty Amazon and Netflix B-movies, and super low budget DIY indie movies.

15-20 years ago, mid-budget films were how studios made money. They were able to recoup the losses from DVD and Blu-ray sales. Thus, studios had an incentive to create original and unique films that people would want to watch over and over again. All of that has been made obsolete now with streaming services.
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 10:15 am
Posted by Philzilla
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:19 pm to
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The latest version shouldn't just be a worse, poorly executed remake of a classic

But that’s all any of the remakes are.
Posted by pevetohead
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:23 pm to
Marvel and superhero movies are just as responsible as streaming services for killing the mid budget movie
Posted by Free888
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:33 pm to
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If I go pay a guy to make a movie tomorrow and it makes $4 billion and I make a 1,000% return on my investment that's not a success for me?


lol, Disney paid $70 billion for Fox. They’re not getting 1000% ROI. They’ll never make that back.
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