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re: 'Snow White' Discussion Thread: Tomatometer @ 46%. Opens at 87 mil WW

Posted on 3/19/25 at 3:52 pm to
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 3:52 pm to
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Maybe they lied about enjoying it. Seems about half the critics like it and half dont. Hook only had 29% critic score. Does that mean it sucks or that noone enjoyed it or that only 3/10 enjoyed it?

Mixed reviews normally means it depends person to person if you will enjoy something


Ok, time to stop white knighting for a Snow White remake that you're never going to see. What is the point of defending this movie? Part of what is so ridiculous about southeasternkige is that he rages about stuff he doesn't watch. This is equally as bad.
Posted by Free888
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 3:55 pm to
Chris Gore isn’t a bomb thrower and he said this thing is colossally bad.
Posted by Corinthians420
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 3:59 pm to
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Nobody cares about critics. Hook has a 76% audience score. That's what matters if we're even taking RT seriously at all.

Yeah i normally trust the popcorn meter over the critic score
Posted by Corinthians420
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 4:01 pm to
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What is the point of defending this movie?

How is asking what the score means defending it?

Some people like it and some people dont. What does that tell me?

Am i supposed to say it sucks? I havent seen it

Noone in this thread has seen it.
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 4:08 pm
Posted by scottydoesntknow
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 4:02 pm to
lol some of the top critics on RT hate Gal Gadot
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 4:23 pm to
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Noone in this thread has seen it.


Right, but you were in the thread you started defending Gal Gadot character though right?

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But the movie isnt Gadot, its "The Evil Queen".

It isnt like they cant use make-up to make her look worse.

Then you also have the caveat of her inner evil corrupting her overall beauty.

Of course, none of this will be a satisfactory answer for someone that doesnt want an answer, and just wants to complain about "bad writing" in a movie they haven't seen.


You're literally talking about stuff you don't know about while in the same post complaining about others complaining yet not seeing it

"You haven't seen the movie and even though I haven't either and don't plan on seeing it let me tell you why what they did is right and makes sense but i know this won't be a good enough answer for me to change your mind about a movie neither of us have seen."
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 4:46 pm
Posted by Corinthians420
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 4:26 pm to
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you were in the thread you started defending Gal Gadot though right?

How is any of that defending gal gadot? I was just saying the magical mirror in the movie isnt gonna be comparing gal gadot to the zegler chick.

Its gonna be comparing a character in the movie to another character
Posted by Jay Are
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 4:54 pm to
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, I'll simply take Igers word that Disney has zero creativity, so he buys other studios to prop up their bottom line, over your opinion on the topic


That is my opinion. I'm sorry that I'm typing too much for you to read.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:06 pm to
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I'm sorry that I'm typing too much for you to read.

Well, when you started out by saying the top films of 2024 werent created by the studio I listed, while ignoring my whole point that Disney didnt create them either, everything else you said wasnt worth the read

I wasnt posting to defend those studios. I was posting to say of the 10, only two (#3 and #7) were Disney creations (and sequels at that)

Then in my next post, I showed you where Iger noticed the exact same thing. That Disney isnt as creative as 420 was falsely trying to imply. They prefer to buy their success

So the 2024 list only means those characters will likely be targets for Disney in the near future. And still wont convince me that Disney has an ounce of creativity left
Posted by Civildawg
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:26 pm to
So after watching a couple of YouTube critics, most of them didn't like it and some hated it.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:41 pm to
There is alot of hemming and hawing in this thread after the RT score dropped

Rather than take in the new information to inform their opinions, they are doing mental gymnastics to keep from admitting they backed a turd.

"The cause was just, we just picked a bad mascot"

---a black journo reflecting years after the OJ verdict
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 6:42 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:44 pm to
She doesn't even clean their house for them!

She provides absolutely zero value to the Dwarves. She just barges in and starts ordering them around?"

---From a review i saw earlier that made me chuckle
Posted by Corinthians420
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Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:46 pm to
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That Disney isnt as creative as 420 was falsely trying to imply. They prefer to buy their success

So the 2024 list only means those characters will likely be targets for Disney in the near future. And still wont convince me that Disney has an ounce of creativity left

you are the only one that brought up creativity with a pivot.
Your first statement was
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Disney buying a studio isnt the same thing as a Disney/Marvel project succeeding

1) Inside Out - Pixar
2) Deadpool & Wolverine - Neither character was a Disney original
4) Despicable Me - Universal
5) Wicked - Universal
6) Dune - Warner Bros
8) Godzilla & Kong - Neither one Disney properties
9) Kung Fu Panda - Paramount
10) Sonic - Paramount

Disney has had a Partnership with Pixar since Toy Story 1. Saying they don't get credit for a project succeeding because it's Pixar is dumb.

now you have swapped the argument. (I assume since you realized saying it wasn't a Disney project didn't make sense).
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 6:47 pm
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34219 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:54 pm to
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now you have swapped the argument. (I assume since you realized saying it wasn't a Disney project didn't make sense)

Maybe you missed my post where Pixar and Disney didnt legally merge until 2018?



Therefore their Pixar "success" was ONLY because they purchased it. Not because they deserved credit for it. Iger said so himself. The WHOLE point of my post to you was not to claim Disney financial success from projects they had purchased from other more creative studios

Moana and Lion King (sequels) were there only Top 10 successes last year

Also, remember the reason for your defense IN THIS THREAD was for a Disney original, that appears to be tanking, yet again
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 7:28 pm to
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Maybe you missed my post where Pixar and Disney didnt legally merge until 2018?



Therefore their Pixar "success" was ONLY because they purchased it

they have been partners with pixar on every pixar movie ever released. not sure why you are bringing up 2018.

Here is Toy Story 1995 Box Office Mojo Page LINK

I promise it was a success for Disney even though it came BEFORE they purchased Pixar animation studio, disproving your entire point that their pixar success was ONLY because they purchased it.
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 7:37 pm
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34219 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 7:38 pm to
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they have been partners with pixar on every pixar movie ever released. not sure why you are bringing up 2018.

Thats when the head of Pixar left

The two studios had never officially merged before that, regardless of Disneys participation of ownership. So citing Toy Story as a "Disney" success is laughable
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John Lasseter's first experience with computer animation was during his work as an animator at Walt Disney Feature Animation, when two of his friends showed him the light-cycle scene from Tron. It was an eye-opening experience that awakened Lasseter to the possibilities offered by the new medium of computer-generated animation. Lasseter tried to pitch The Brave Little Toaster as a fully computer-animated film to Disney, but the idea was rejected and Lasseter was fired.

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The Walt Disney Company sought to get Lasseter from Pixar. "I can go to Disney and be a director, or I can stay here and make history." Katzenberg realized he could not lure Lasseter back to Disney and therefore set plans into motion to ink a production deal with Pixar to produce a film. Disney struck a deal allowing him to make it as a Disney film outside the studio. This allowed Pixar to make their movies outside Disney.

You should stop now
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 7:38 pm to
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citing Toy Story as a "Disney" success is laughable

it was a Disney success. It was also a Pixar success. that's how a partnership works.

From your own quote
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Disney struck a deal allowing him to make it as a Disney film outside the studio.

You trying to say a Disney film doesn't count as a Disney success is retarded. The movie doesn't get made without Disney.
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"Toy Story" was a joint venture between Pixar Animation Studios and Walt Disney Pictures, with Disney financing the project after Pixar demonstrated its technological capabilities.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Pixar's Vision:
Pixar, then chaired by Steve Jobs, had been recruited by Disney for its video capabilities and was given a $26 million deal for three computer-animated, feature-length movies.
Disney's Investment:
After Pixar demonstrated its ability to create computer-animated feature films, Disney stepped forward to finance the project, which became "Toy Story".
The Deal:
Ed Catmull closed the movie deal with Disney in July 1991.
Joint Venture:
The film was produced by Pixar Animation Studios and distributed by Walt Disney Pictures.
Success:
"Toy Story" was a groundbreaking success, paving the way for other computer-animated feature films.

This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 7:46 pm
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
24083 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 7:42 pm to
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"The cause was just, we just picked a bad mascot" ---a black journo reflecting years after the OJ verdict

That quote disgusts me since a woman was brutally murdered

But at least it started a conversation
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34219 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:05 pm to
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The movie doesn't get made without Disney.

Disney didnt make Toy Story. They funded it. Thats like giving Chase Bank credit for building your vehicle. Ford built your vehocle and put their name on it. They just got money from a big bank to build it. Disney has just become a big entertainment bank
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The movie was a joint venture between Disney and Pixar, a young company—then chaired by Steve Jobs—that had been recruited by the animation giant for its video capabilities. Pixar had been given a $26 million deal for three computer-animated, feature-length movies

Disney never laid a finger on making the movie. They bought the success

Just like they did with with Deadpool, Wolverine, Star Wars, Spiderman, Fantastic Four, etc
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:09 pm to
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Disney didnt make Toy Story. They funded it. Thats like giving Chase Bank credit for building your vehicle. Ford built your vehocle and put their name on it. They just got money from a big bank to build it. Disney has just become a big entertainment bank

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Disney never laid a finger on making the movie. They bought the success

Just like they did with with Deadpool, Wolverine, Star Wars, Spiderman, Fantastic Four, etc

This is the definition of a publisher. are you saying you can't be successful as a publisher?

If I go pay a guy to make a movie tomorrow and it makes $4 billion and I make a 1,000% return on my investment that's not a success for me?

In the Pixar case Disney had even more impact. Pixar wasn't pursuing feature length films until Disney came to them.
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 8:11 pm
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