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Posted on 1/27/25 at 9:13 pm to Downeast12
With all the cloning and cryogenic theories I guess I’ll point out that the main Eagan guy looks ridiculous as a modern person. More like someone from the 1800’s. Also he called someone a fetid moppet.
Probably nothing but who knows
Probably nothing but who knows
Posted on 1/27/25 at 10:52 pm to JoeHackett
quote:That is very interesting. This show doesn’t do anything by accident really. I was watching some non spoiler interviews and panels with the cast and Ben and Dan, the amount of detail is incredible. Britt said she would open a desk drawer on the severed floor and there were branded Lumen post it notes, index cards with Kier sayings, etc. This is all off camera too, lol.
Somebody made a 2 minute video on Reddit about the elevator dings. It's...interesting.
Just a funny tidbit, Dan Erickson was working in a literal door factory when he came up with the idea for severance. Of course the homage is Dylan’s interview - and he can’t get the job because he’s severed.
Also, The You You Are, it has around 50 pages that Dan actually wrote instead of just having a few choice sayings.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 6:33 am to PassGassed
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With all the cloning and cryogenic theories I guess I’ll point out that the main Eagan guy looks ridiculous as a modern person. More like someone from the 1800’s. Also he called someone a fetid moppet.
Probably nothing but who knows
In the season 1 finale he says:
So definitely something fricky going on with him.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 6:53 am to BottomlandBrew
quote:No issues with the discussion, I think there is a lot to it and Persephone was used on purpose, but just to clarify Mark says Persephone in response to Devon asking Mark if he knows who she is - Devon is observant and thinks she saw Mark shift back to outie at the party, but wasn’t sure.
Marks says "Persephone" in episode 2 in reference to Gemma
Posted on 1/28/25 at 7:49 am to BottomlandBrew
Yea the more I think about it the more I’m buying into the theory that he is Kier and this is all about transferring consciousness into other bodies. I’m still not sure why Mark is so important. Maybe his wife’s body was identified as a transfer body and he is able to “decode” her better than anyone or something like that?
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:14 am to Esquire
Why would Helena, daughter of the CEO, get severed in the first place? She’s obviously wealthy, so not doing it for money. Why would her dad be ok with it? Or is this some bigger plan of his? She was severed right after Petey escaped, so it has to do something with that, right? Maybe she volunteered to impress dad since they needed a replacement fast and MDR's task is important?
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Posted on 1/28/25 at 9:36 am to SUB
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Why would Helena, daughter of the CEO, get severed in the first place? She’s obviously wealthy, so not doing it for money. Why would her dad be ok with it? Or is this some bigger plan of his?
I feel like this has been explained pretty clearly. She was Severed as PR to show that it is not dangerous and even desirable. With all the anti-severed stuff and legal issues going on they wanted to show that it was a good thing. That event she was speaking at in the finale of season one was supposed to be her showing the world how great being a severed worker is.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 9:43 am to SUB
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Why would Helena, daughter of the CEO, get severed in the first place?
+1 to what tiger just said. Was basically a big PR stunt for Lumon to try and show what a great company it is/how great a severed workplace is. She was obviously a big proponent of it seeing as she willingly severed herself.
I'm not buying a lot into the cloning theories. Not that some mentioned don't make sense, I just don't want that to be one of the things going on. Cloning just seems a little too cliche' for this show.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 10:09 am to Tiger1242
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She was Severed as PR to show that it is not dangerous and even desirable. With all the anti-severed stuff and legal issues going on they wanted to show that it was a good thing. That event she was speaking at in the finale of season one was supposed to be her showing the world how great being a severed worker is.
That all is obviously true, but don't you think there's more to it? They could have severed her and put her anywhere at Lumon. There's a reason she was chosen to replace Petey.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 10:54 am to SUB
quote:The show is easily showing you that MDR is the most important thing going on at Lumon currently.
They could have severed her and put her anywhere at Lumon. There's a reason she was chosen to replace Petey.
Specifically Mark S. and Gemma (Cold Harbor) that they are beginning to unveil now. Helena would have known this from her perch and in the PR stunt/prove her worth to her father, of course she is going to the hot spot when severed. Her motivation and landing spot isn't a big mystery to unwrap.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 11:03 am to iwyLSUiwy
quote:Same. Cloning is too low hanging fruit for these creators imo. Stiller/Erickson et al have put tons of thought and detail into what they're creating.
I'm not buying a lot into the cloning theories. Not that some mentioned don't make sense, I just don't want that to be one of the things going on. Cloning just seems a little too cliche' for this show.
I do think the Helena is on the severed floor now is something they would do, give all the clues and reveal it early in the season and not leave it as a cliffhanger in E9 like some other shows would do. I think they have much bigger fish to fry and Helena currently - I say currently - being with MDR is just part of the storyline. The more I think about it, the more I think Helly R gets put back on the floor - whether it's Helena's wishes or not.
Also, the control panel that OTC initiated has multiple settings. I don't think they've been explained through pieces of the show yet (unless I'm forgetting), but Lumen management surely knows what each one does. IE, disable chips, possibly reset severed memories to a point in time or back to zero, etc.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 11:03 am to drizztiger
I'm sure it's old news to some but there is a Severence Wiki if you want some quick info about characters, episode summaries, etc.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 11:10 am to iwyLSUiwy
Sweet, thanks.
Until recently, I hadn't done anything except rewatch season 1 a few times. Absolutely zero interviews and certainly no where near any theories besides this board.
I did rabbit hole all the press interviews (which are spoiler-free) and gave a few theory vids a watch. It's funny that most of what we've discussed here immediately following S2 episodes is basically regurgitated 4-5 days later by some YouTubers.
Until recently, I hadn't done anything except rewatch season 1 a few times. Absolutely zero interviews and certainly no where near any theories besides this board.
I did rabbit hole all the press interviews (which are spoiler-free) and gave a few theory vids a watch. It's funny that most of what we've discussed here immediately following S2 episodes is basically regurgitated 4-5 days later by some YouTubers.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 11:22 am to Downeast12
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Something is off
Has anyone come up with a reasonable timeframe for the show?
I'm fascinated by the tech and the little things like the flip phone and the vehicles. And in this latest episode Irv used a payphone.
Nearly everything about their world is slightly off and wrong, like as if it were simulated by someone or some things that didn't quite understand the time period they were looking at. The Board?
Posted on 1/28/25 at 11:35 am to paperwasp
quote:I think this is going to be part of the bigger mystery.
Has anyone come up with a reasonable timeframe for the show?
I'm fascinated by the tech and the little things like the flip phone and the vehicles. And in this latest episode Irv used a payphone.
Nearly everything about their world is slightly off and wrong, like as if it were simulated by someone or some things that didn't quite understand the time period they were looking at. The Board?
As you said, the disparities is technology is quite noticeable. Some things seem dated, while others advanced. I try to pay attention to the details and rewatch the episodes as well since we have a week between each. The Lumon videos I believe contain hints as well. How many countries are there being a prime example.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 11:39 am to paperwasp
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Has anyone come up with a reasonable timeframe for the show?
I'm fascinated by the tech and the little things like the flip phone and the vehicles. And in this latest episode Irv used a payphone.
Nearly everything about their world is slightly off and wrong, like as if it were simulated by someone or some things that didn't quite understand the time period they were looking at. The Board?
I agree with you, and I also notice that no one in the show ever talks about travel, other cities/states/etc --- everything revolves around this one town where Lumon is located. What if this town and all these people are in a "Truman Show" situation where they all live in this simulated bubble and never leave?
Posted on 1/28/25 at 11:49 am to paperwasp
I read an interview where they specifically keep time ambiguous. They don't want the show tied to any particular period.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 11:54 am to EyeOfTheTiger311
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I agree with you, and I also notice that no one in the show ever talks about travel, other cities/states/etc --- everything revolves around this one town where Lumon is located.
Well the new old guy did say that he got out of a lease in Grand Rapids last episode.
So some of the real world does exist.
Maybe.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 11:54 am to EyeOfTheTiger311
quote:To your point, they live in a state that doesn't exist - it's been shown multiple times in the show, PE. The license plates have no state designation - shown multiple times - only Kier and the phrase "Remedium Hominibus". Lumon video from this season states that Lumon operates in 206 countries. There are currently 195 countries in the world.
I agree with you, and I also notice that no one in the show ever talks about travel, other cities/states/etc --- everything revolves around this one town where Lumon is located. What if this town and all these people are in a "Truman Show" situation where they all live in this simulated bubble and never leave?
As you guys have said, and seems very likely to me, that they are living in a difference reality than we are. Truman Show, a different multiverse, perhaps different planes of existence tied together?
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