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re: Ryan Gosling reveal as Ghost Rider in MCU

Posted on 7/27/26 at 12:36 pm to
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 12:36 pm to
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Woke messaging has only been going on for like 10 to 15 years. The new DEI rules of Hollywood have only been in effect for about five years. It’s weird that you pretend it’s been going on forever.


Except thats not what you said. You said they're changing stories to fit current day messaging. Which has literally been done in cinema forever, but because you dont like the message now you've invented this bullshite narrative of "oh they used to not be like this"

When Hollywood has quite literally always been like this.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 12:38 pm to
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you've invented this bullshite narrative of "oh they used to not be like this"


I haven’t invented anything . Hollywood has intentionally set out to subvert and swap certain roles targeting certain groups. This has been codified into the Academy, so it’s funny that you pretend it’s something that I made up or invented.
This post was edited on 7/27/26 at 2:16 pm
Posted by CatfishJohn
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 12:39 pm to
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SouthEasternKaiju



Your talent for ruining a MTV Board thread is astounding.

Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 12:41 pm to
Because I’m not gonna back down or deny facts ? OK.



*The Academy Awards now require films to meet two out of four diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) standards to be eligible for Best Picture consideration. These standards focus on on-screen representation, behind-the-scenes diversity, and inclusive internship programs.

I’m not the one who wants artificially hinder, or tell people how to make their movies.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 12:49 pm to
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you've invented this bullshite narrative of "oh they used to not be like this"


Lol you cant get your bullshite right because theres so much of it

"The last 10 to 15 years" allows me to infer that you think Hollywood has changed the way they tell stories.

quote:

i haven’t invented anything .


You have no idea what you are talking about.
Posted by Raoul Stimulato
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 12:56 pm to
The first hour of A Place Beyond the Pines is so good.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 12:58 pm to
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I disagree with the idea that Ghost Rider is lower tier.


Ghost Rider, if done correctly, is one of the coolest and most unique characters in Marvel's library.

There's a reason that, before the MCU, they were willing to make not just one but two Ghost Rider movies.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 2:17 pm to
I see I’ve confused you with your own words. Sorry I didn’t put those into quote box, I have since corrected that.

Hope this helps.

* did everybody see where I think it’s a good casting of Ryan Gosling? Could be very good, but I do have doubts about the director.
This post was edited on 7/27/26 at 2:19 pm
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 2:26 pm to
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*The Academy Awards now require films to meet two out of four diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) standards to be eligible for Best Picture consideration. These standards focus on on-screen representation, behind-the-scenes diversity, and inclusive internship programs.


Following this criteria, a movie about how great straight, white, men are with a cast consisting of nothing but straight , white, men and directed by a straight, white, man from a studio run by a straight, white, man would be eligible to win Best Picture.

Sorry that the on-set caterer and the intern that empties the trash cans being other than straight, white, or male is ruining your viewing experience.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 2:31 pm to
All that is true.

But setting DEI hiring standards anywhere is still gross, and a slap in the face to the market.

I don't care if it is the cat wrangler or shitter cleaners.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 3:06 pm to
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Sorry that the on-set caterer and the intern that empties the trash cans being other than straight, white, or male is ruining your viewing experience.


How much do you still donate to BLM?

Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 3:26 pm to
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Ghost Rider, if done correctly, is one of the coolest and most unique characters in Marvel's library.

There's a reason that, before the MCU, they were willing to make not just one but two Ghost Rider movies.


We also have a woeful lack of these sorts of comic movies.

DC has the better slate with the whole Neil Gaiman world, Justice League Dark, etc, but Marvel has good characters for this sort of thing too like Blade, Ghost Rider, Moon Knight, Midnight Sons, etc.
This post was edited on 7/27/26 at 3:37 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 3:26 pm to
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Following this criteria, a movie about how great straight, white, men are with a cast consisting of nothing but straight , white, men and directed by a straight, white, man from a studio run by a straight, white, man would be eligible to win Best Picture.

Sorry that the on-set caterer and the intern that empties the trash cans being other than straight, white, or male is ruining your viewing experience.


Hiring for anything other than merit should be illegal.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 4:16 pm to
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DC has the better slate with the whole Neil Gaiman world, Justice League Dark, etc, but Marvel has good characters for this sort of thing too like Blade, Ghost Rider, Moon Knight, Midnight Sons, etc.


Neil Gaiman's Sandman was pretty good; JL: Dark has done great with their animated movies but I am not sure if they'll make a live action or not (DCU needs to get at least get some traction before they try it).

Midnight Sons would be great; I'm still waiting to see if they bring back Moon Knight or not. His show was pretty good, one of the better Disney+ shows honestly.
Posted by Jay Are
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 4:23 pm to
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There's a reason that, before the MCU, they were willing to make not just one but two Ghost Rider movies.


1. Sony really wanted to capitalize on a Marvel character it owned among the broader boom in superhero movies, lest the rights revert back to Marvel.
2. A legitimate movie star (at the time) pushed to make them happen.

Ghost Rider is one of those characters who exists as a very cool idea, but with whom Marvel has never really known what to do. Like with Blade, there are very few successful comic book runs in Ghost Rider's 60 year history. And those 2 movies are considered by most to be among the lowest tier of superhero adaptations. I personally enjoy Spirit of Vengeance. Nailing a quality, cinematic idea for this reboot is not a given, especially with Captain Nostalgia Trash at the helm.

Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 4:23 pm to
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Hiring for anything other than merit should be illegal.


Illegal? Absolutely not

Definitely shouldn't be officially encouraged or required for standard qualitative acknowledgement.

It's gross
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 4:29 pm to
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Neil Gaiman's Sandman was pretty good; JL: Dark has done great with their animated movies but I am not sure if they'll make a live action or not (DCU needs to get at least get some traction before they try it).


Yeah this is where James Gunn's choice of movies is not helping. Supergirl is perhaps the least interesting character he could have chosen for movie 2. Barely C-tier.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 4:37 pm to
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Yeah this is where James Gunn's choice of movies is not helping. Supergirl is perhaps the least interesting character he could have chosen for movie 2. Barely C-tier.


I honestly didn't understand that selection; I don't mind the character but you already did Superman. If you want a female led movie, go with Wonder Woman; if you're avoiding Wonder Woman because she had the most recent movie then go with one of these:

Power Girl (the ACTUAL edgy Supergirl)
Batgirl
Zatanna (which would be a good lead in to JL:Dark)
Hawkgirl (technically already cast from the Superman movie)
Black Canary
Raven or Starfire (for a Teen Titans lead in)

If you're worried about name recognition then Batgirl is the obvious choice; that said, if you're aiming for most interesting I'd say Zatanna, Raven, and Black Canary in that order (though Raven's backstory is the most interesting and comes with a built-in antagonist).
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 4:38 pm to
Gunn's Batman should have been #2.

Supes
Batman
WW


Flash/Green Arrow/Nightwing/
GL/Aquaman
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 7/27/26 at 4:53 pm to
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Hiring for anything other than merit should be illegal


The wife of the WWE guy is the Secretary of Education and a plumber is the Secretary of Homeland Security
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