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re: Rewatching Season 1 of GoT...Caitlyn Stark observation

Posted on 5/22/14 at 1:40 pm to
Posted by Tiger the Hutt
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 1:40 pm to
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From the conversation Robert and Ned have talking about Jon Snows mother, you definitely take away that it was an isolated incident. And Ned was ashamed of it.


When I went back and rewatched season one, I had a different impression.

Yes Ned Stark was ashamed, but not for cheating on Cat, for lying to Robert about the whole thing. It's like Ned, right there in that convo scene wanted to blurt out ' Jon's not my kid! I didn't cheat on Cat!" but he knew if even just one other person knew Jon's true identity, then more people would know, and people (probably Jon) would end up dead.

For how much the show goes on and on about Ned's honor, and how much we see of Ned's honor, ever until the very end, there is no way in my mind that Ned had a kid out of wedlock.

But I don't 'know' anything. So I could be totally wrong. Also, my dad, who's read the books said that ****NOT REALLY SPOILER AT ALL****






Before Cat died, she admitted something to the effect of "every decision I have made has been stupid, and I got my family killed". This made me warm up to her a little bit.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 1:41 pm to
It was completely set off by Littlefinger, and Littlefinger knew Cat was likely to run into him on her way back north. She did exactly what LF intended but was hoping she'd kill him instead of letting her go. LF is responsible for basically everything bad that happens in the story.
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 1:44 pm to
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I just don't see how Cat can be blamed when it seems like all of this was set in motion by Baelish's scheming.



I look at it as Baelish dousing a house is gasoline, ...but Cat and Cersei were the flint and stone that provided the spark
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 1:47 pm to
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LF is responsible for basically everything bad that happens in the story.


Chaos is a ladder.
Posted by TDTGodfather
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 1:59 pm to
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one can be calculating...and make terrible calculations.

that's pretty dead on for cersei.
Posted by UL-SabanRival
Member since May 2013
4651 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:35 pm to
Her lack of hotness aggravated me the most. We need another solid hottie character. My dick has been sad since they killed off Ros. I liked the way she talked through her teeth like the little slut that she was.

fricking Joffrey. He can't just get laid. He has to torture and kill a bitch.
Posted by Warfarer
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 3:43 pm to
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I just don't see how Cat can be blamed when it seems like all of this was set in motion by Baelish's scheming.



The way I look at it is that Cat fueled the fire. Baelish set everything a blaze but Cat kept throwing gas on it.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 3:45 pm to
I dunno. He seems like the type who would have kept pressing buttons until he got the results he wanted.

Posted by Warfarer
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Member since May 2010
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 3:45 pm to
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Her lack of hotness aggravated me the most. We need another solid hottie character. My dick has been sad since they killed off Ros. I liked the way she talked through her teeth like the little slut that she was.



and stupid Dany growing morals and shite and not wanting to get naked. She knew they had the producers by the doodoohole and leveraged that deal. They can't recast one of the biggest roles in the show.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 4:28 pm to


dude, there are enough boobs on the internet for you guys to look at w/o GOT adding to it.
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
20922 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 4:41 pm to
So has it definitely been confirmed that it's Emilia Clarke who has a no-nudity clause now??
Posted by fightingtigers98
Member since Oct 2011
13303 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 4:46 pm to
i think why Ned got so angry of when Robert said kill Dany is because of what happened, and it makes sense.

SPOILER*******





















it makes the L+R=J theory more plausible, because in saying it is ok to kill Dany it would also be ok to kill Jon.





















***************End
Posted by Eman5805
West Bank
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 5:03 pm to
Given that [insert name] is responsible for the entire events of the narrative. You'd think at some point even they would feel guilty about it. After all, said character's machinations did result in [insert name]'s death. Which had to be exactly what they didn't want.


Unless said person(s) were just insane and it was considered a lost cause and just moved on to acquiring Plan B.
This post was edited on 5/22/14 at 5:04 pm
Posted by La Place Mike
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 5:09 pm to
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I didnt realize how big of a bitch she was the first time I watched.

One could say her rash behavior is responsible for all the bad shite that happened to that family.



I have hated that bitch form the beginning.
Posted by putt23
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 5:27 pm to
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Robert and Cersei had the most dysfunctional, destructive marriage in the series. They had ZERO compatibility, and their 'marriage alliance' didn't do much IMO.


But there wasn't any war for like what, 17 years?

I just like how Ned brought a bastard home, and Robert got drunk and banged all kinds of chicks, but when their women ask about it all they say is, "I won't hear another word about this."

It's pretty hard to be honorable when you can just tell everyone to shut up or you get to cut off a head
Posted by UL-SabanRival
Member since May 2013
4651 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 5:36 pm to
Her boobs weren't that great, but increasingly pissy actors are inevitable when a show is this successful. Still no nude Cersei, for some reason, and she's one of the show's biggest sluts.
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
20922 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 5:48 pm to
Greyjoy Rebellion happened 9 years after the RR.
Posted by putt23
Pingree Grove, IL
Member since Oct 2010
5389 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 6:08 pm to
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Greyjoy Rebellion happened 9 years after the RR.


You're right lady. I guess I don't think of them cause they were never a threat. I actually think I thought it was during RR.

They've never been more dangerous than they are now for sure
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45369 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 6:19 pm to
Hordor here. Spoiler below.












But some a-hole at work told me a theory on Jon's dad, and it's not Ned. That a-hole told me that after I explained I like not knowing. Made me look at Cat as most of the dumb count I know.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 6:21 pm to
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Her boobs weren't that great, but increasingly pissy actors are inevitable when a show is this successful. Still no nude Cersei, for some reason, and she's one of the show's biggest sluts.

Lena Headey is covered in stupid tattoos.
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