Revenge of the Sith

That movie sucks, The last Episodes of The Clone Wars basically redeemed that entire movie.

Well, it is the last time we see Anakin Skywalker and Obi-Wan together…from a certain point of view.

If nothing else, the scene shows that Anakin had good intentions but his power lust was too great to overcome anything, even his love for Padme and his child. In his head, when Anakin is on Mustafar and Obi-Wan gets off of the ship, he has indeed “caught” him with Padme. It’s not a bedroom scene, but he flat out accuses Obi-Wan of turning her against him. In the moment, he can’t see the truth, and only knows at that point power is the only thing in the galaxy that he can control.

Why do this to yourself? I recall thinking, "Well, this is better than the first 2 of these." Of course. What movie isn't going to look good compared to The Cartoon Menace and Send in the Clones?

Doesn't make it a good movie because it doesn't stink as badly as those turds.

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Next thing we know he’s even more pissed at the jedi and complains even more. It’s like that conversation never happened. He literally turns to the dark side like the next day.

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Movies are almost never good for giving a reference of time. For example do you know how long Gandalf was gone from the Shire from Bilbo's birthday party to when he scares Frodo in the middle of the night?

17 fricking years. The movie makes it seem like a few months at most.

The moment you are talking about to when Anakin turns could be a couple weeks. Star Wars flies by the seat of it's pants for everything because its meant to look good and be exciting on film. Travel is never explained, George would not waste screen time showing Obi-wan scouring Utapau for Grievious and the droids in hiding.

Anakin is having vivid dreams of his wife dying in childbirth. He knows Jedi can get visions of the future. He struggles ignoring his senses, rightfully so. He does go to Mace and the council when he finds out about Palpatine. He does the right thing. The problem is Palpatine has been grooming Anakin for 10+ years. Palpatine plants the seed that only he can teach Anakin how to save Padme in Anakin's head so there is an internal struggle. Even after showing up at the end of the fight Anakin pleads with Mace to allow them to arrest Palpatine so Anakin won't lose that choice if it's one he needs to make to save Padme. Obviously he loses the internal struggle.

Internal struggles are hard to portray on screen. We just saw the worst most sped up attempt in Game of Thrones with Daenerys. I think George Lucas does a better job than most but he isn't going to spoon feed you because it's a movie meant for kids. It's meant to be exciting. Showing a main character eat himself up with an internal struggle isn't entertaining for kids.

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So what was the point of the positive scene between him and Obi-Wan? What are they trying to show to the audience? Seems kinda out of place given his progression throughout the movie.

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b/c Anakin knows he should apologize for how he acted, just like a kid does to their parent, even though deep down maybe they aren't that sorry, but they know they should be sorry.
Anakin knows he should be sorry, and he's trying to be, but he really isn't.


I too wish they would have maybe made another movie instead of doing a trilogy, and really show Anakins progression of how he came to distrust the Jedi. How the council treated Ahsoko was really important. She needed to be in these movies to help with showing Anakin growing distrust. Also the few episodes from the Clone Wars where Anakin visited the planet with the Father/Son/Daughter is a pivotal moment as well.
There just should have been more struggle shown with Anakin. You can tell he wants to do the right thing (the jedi way), but deep down he doesn't fully believe in it. I liken it to most people that go to church that just go through the motions and mostly pretend they are catholic b/c they know that's what they are supposed to do. At some point an event happens that makes them just stop believing in it and they turn away from it very quickly, b/c they were never really into it in the first place and internally they were moving away from it for some time, but those thoughts were never shown outwardly to anyone.

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RotS is a mess.

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Compared to the last two Star Wars movies, it is positively logical and coherent.

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The originals are better but are no where near perfect.

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Never said they were

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Primitive teddy bears with wood and stone tools helping take down a futuristic galactic empire is as egregious as anything in the prequels.

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This isn’t problem with the prequels. While maybe a little silly the Ewoks are ok, of course it would have been better if it was the Wookie planet as long rumored but it make sense with in the movie.

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Star Wars is a fly by the seat of your pants children's saga. I enjoy it but never look into it for more than what it is.

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Right and that’s lost in the prequels with all stupid overly complicated “plot”.
Star Wars is pretty simple: evil tyrannical govt has a super weapon, the rebels are trying to destroy it. A princess is held captive and they rescue her before destroying said super weapon.

The Phantom Menace a trade federation is blockading a planet over taxes passed by the Senate?

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think George Lucas does a better job than most but he isn't going to spoon feed you because it's a movie meant for kids. It's meant to be exciting.

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He sure spent his time with scenes in TPM with talk of trade franchise disputes and senate meetings. As far as portraying internal struggles, I think even with a mask on, the portrayal of Vader's internal struggle was much better in Empire and RoTJ than Anakins in the prequels. Him saving Luke at the end felt more believable to me than Anakins turn and full embrace of the darkside.

There was a lot of content cut from the final film which explains this. One of those was a sideplot in which the Chancellor attempts to sew doubt in Anakin’s mind about Padme. There are deleted scenes of Padme essentially setting up the rebellion and opposing the Chancellor’s moves to centralize the Republic. Palpatine tries to convince Anakin that these moves are necessary to win the war and that Padme might have ulterior motives for opposing him and thus should not be trusted. There’s a whole sideplot cut from the movie about Anakin suspecting Padme of cheating on him and conspiring against him with Obi Wan.

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RotS is seen as a good movie

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Because it’s the fun kind of bad, like Aquaman, instead of the bad kind of bad, like The Last Jedi.