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re: Question about Rey in Star Wars... *spoilers*

Posted on 12/22/15 at 9:44 am to
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 12/22/15 at 9:44 am to
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He did, however, use the force to make a "one in a million" shot with no targeting computer to blow up the Death Star.

Rey showed she was a competent combatant earlier in the movie just like it was alluded that Luke was a competent pilot before the Death Star attack in "A New Hope." I don't think it's that much different.


This. Plus, one would think she has had some training before she was abandoned.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 12/22/15 at 9:48 am to
"There has been an awakening..."
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 12/22/15 at 9:50 am to
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if I think about it, it's pretty lame that the main character of 4-6 goes into hiding because his spoiled brat nephew has temper tantrums


he's not hiding so much as studying the remains of the first jedi temple and trying to decide if/when he can start again or if it's just better that he not train anyone else.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 12/22/15 at 10:02 am to
I see it like most have said in this thread. First off, Luke showed a lot of force skill before he ever got to Yoda by force grabbing his lightsaber while on Hoth, and turning off his targeting computer and using the force to aim his shot when he blew up the death star. Luke's problem was that he was overthinking things and doubting himself while training with Yoda, not to mention that his mind was on his friends. When Luke concentrated and blocked everything else out, he was able to use the force without training.

It was established that Rey was already very "athletic" from her savaging raid she did on the wrecked star destroyer, and a good fighter with her fight on the two guys that were twice her size that tried to steal BB8. But another thing that she proved early on in the film, that was contrary to what Luke was early on in his story, was that she was very self confident. The only time I remember her questioning herself was when she had the vision after touching the lightsaber (but that was because it scared the crap out if her). So when Kylo reminded her of what Maz told her about concentrating on letting the force move through her, she was able to allow the force to guide her actions.

Plus Kylo was shot in the side by a bowcaster (which is more powerful than a normal blaster), and had been hit in the arm by Finn with the lightsaber. So he was no where near 100% during that fight.
This post was edited on 12/22/15 at 10:04 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/22/15 at 10:09 am to
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Rey was just some girl fending for herself at the beginning of the movie, and then by the end of the movie, which seemed like a very short period of time, Rey holds her own and beats Kylo Ren in a light saber battle? How does that add up?

Not 30 minutes before in the movie Kylo Ren uses the force to completely freeze her and control her and carry her on his ship. She couldn't even move. And then just 30 minutes later she's more powerful than him?


Kylo Ren is not as powerful as he appears. Yes, he has raw power, which is why he beats Finn so easily, but his control over his emotions is terrible. Ren is pretty horribly trained at this point, and his lightsaber is proof enough of this. Rey has near complete control over her emotions, and that makes her mentally stronger than Ren, and she is able to overcome him in this way.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 12/22/15 at 10:18 am to
There's not much to add that hasn't already been mentioned. I'll just say that I had no issues with the way it turned out. Maybe it's because I liked Daisy Ridley so much in this role. She completely knocked it out of the park.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/22/15 at 10:25 am to
she dont need no white man telling her what to do...
Posted by Nodust
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Posted on 12/22/15 at 10:31 am to
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Plus Kylo was shot in the side by a bowcaster (which is more powerful than a normal blaster), and had been hit in the arm by Finn with the lightsaber. So he was no where near 100% during that fight.

And I assume Kylo's saber was inferior to the one Rey had.
Posted by Jizzamo311
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 12/22/15 at 10:32 am to
What is the title of the movie???

That's about all you need to know....
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 12/22/15 at 10:32 am to
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she was naturally gifted with the force.

Her Midichlorian count is rumored to be off the charts.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 12/22/15 at 10:33 am to
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Rey


Hit it, I would.
Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
9089 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 10:34 am to
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Her Midichlorian count is rumored to be off the charts.


LucasP bat signal.
Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
9089 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 10:36 am to
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And I assume Kylo's saber was inferior to the one Rey had.


Not sure, although obviously Kylo wanted it more. But that could be just because it belonged to Anakin.
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 12/22/15 at 10:48 am to
The worst part of that movie was Rey or Finn being able to defend themselves with the lightsaber against Kylo. Just ridiculous that they would be able to wield it in any way. Bash away.
Posted by Bumble Bee
Northwest, La
Member since Jan 2011
894 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 10:50 am to
I just re-watched Ep IV last night. One thing I noticed along these lines is that several times throughout the movie after Obi Won died is he kept telling Luke to trust the force and to trust his feelings.

The Force was a new concept to Luke. He had to be taught from scratch. Rey, had heard of the powers and what it could do so it would be easier for her to accept and trust once she discovered it was within her.
Posted by Bumble Bee
Northwest, La
Member since Jan 2011
894 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 10:52 am to
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The worst part of that movie was Rey or Finn being able to defend themselves with the lightsaber against Kylo. Just ridiculous that they would be able to wield it in any way. Bash away.


Rey, its not so hard to believe.

Finn, yes. He was a storm trooper with no hand to hand combat training. (I've never notices a storm trooper fighting with anything other than a blaster.)
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 10:55 am to
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Not sure, although obviously Kylo wanted it more. But that could be just because it belonged to Anakin.


It's certainly inferior. The saber does not have as much energy and is simply dangerous for its own user to yield. It's not nearly as clean as Anakin's or all the other lightsabers in the series. It's something that adds to his character and his frustration is that he hasn't figured out how to create a fully functioning lightsabers yet. Vader makes a point in Episode VI of being highly impressed he was able to forge a new lightsaber, and really there is pride from Vader in his son's ability to do it. Vader would laugh at Kylo's failed blade, and Kylo knows this as well. I'm sure that will turn into an obsession of his to get it in the next film, and I think he'll succeed by the end of Episode VIII.
This post was edited on 12/22/15 at 10:57 am
Posted by Ralph Nader
Member since Nov 2015
559 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 10:59 am to
I was wondering this too.

Plus, why couldn't Kylo Ren have used the force to freeze Fin like he did to Rey earlier in the movie, and then just kill him easily? Why did he even have to fight?

Why did he get shot by Chewbacca? At the very beginning of the movie he completely froze the blaster bolt or whatever it's called in mid-air. Why didn't he do that when Chewbacca shot at him?



I just don't get how sometimes he seems like an unstoppable and omnipotent being and other times he seems pretty pedestrian.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 12/22/15 at 11:00 am to
It's called bad writing.
Posted by Ralph Nader
Member since Nov 2015
559 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 11:00 am to
Also... another thing I'd like to add about the lightsaber...

during the fight scene at the end, one of them swung the lightsaber and missed and hit a tree. It cut the tree right in half.

So howcome when they actually get hit with the lightsaber, it seems to just hurt them instead of completely killing them?
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