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re: Project Hail Mary - Discussion (Spoilers) *Now Streaming On-Demand*

Posted on 3/23/26 at 9:23 am to
Posted by auyushu
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Posted on 3/23/26 at 9:23 am to
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but you gotta go straight into Noble House after Tai-Pan.


Yeah, as great as Shogun is, Noble House might be my favorite by Clavell, and he has a bunch of good stuff.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 3/23/26 at 9:27 am to
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Also I’d add some of the time to and from earth didn’t really make sense to me. Going back being only 4 years seems kind of short, also feels like some of the earth damage would be kind of already done by the time they got the data and could do anything about it


I didn't read the book, but I believe the astrophage allowed Grace's ship to go close to light speed. And when they showed earth after getting the data, it was clearly in bad shape from what I remember - the ship in the ocean going through frozen seas.
Posted by RoyalAir
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/23/26 at 10:19 am to
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I believe the astrophage allowed Grace's ship to go close to light speed.


It did. It was essentially a perfect fuel, assuming it could be harnessed.

The movie didn't get into the sheer amount if resources needed to produce that amount of astrophage, but in the book, you essentially had to cover the Sahara in solar panels. It was a relatively important hiccup to solve, and it was waved away in the movie.

I do wish they had spent a *touch* more exposition about how much power Stratt was delegated, and from whom, and the need to move super fast. But if those are my gripes, I'm thoroughly satisfied.
Posted by kftiger1
Lake Charles
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Posted on 3/23/26 at 10:33 am to
My son (14) and I both enjoyed it very much. Full range of emotions. Gosling is naturally funny, but there are also times when the tension is 10/10. We both laughed a lot and may have cried a little.

Listening to the audiobook, and it's so-far great as well.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 3/23/26 at 11:33 am to
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I didn't read the book, but I believe the astrophage allowed Grace's ship to go close to light speed.


I told my wife the other day that this may be the greatest cinematic glossing over of human beings achieving light speed travel that I can recall. In most sci-fi films, it tends to be a much bigger deal made.

I completely get it why it wasn't needed to waste screen time on the tech involved. It was just amusing to me that what would normally be a giant watershed moment is handled almost as if a foregone conclusion with respect to the larger story.
Posted by arktiger28
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Posted on 3/23/26 at 11:39 am to
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I completely get it why it wasn't needed to waste screen time on the tech involved. It was just amusing to me that what would normally be a giant watershed moment is handled almost as if a foregone conclusion with respect to the larger story.


To me, I think it's best to view this movie on its own while viewing the full book as footnotes that explain the deeper science. If someone cares deeply about science, they can listen to one of the best audiobooks ever. It's readily available. For example, the language barrier was explained deeply in the book, but to put much of that in the movie would have made it terrible.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
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Posted on 3/23/26 at 11:51 am to
Saw it last night. Took the wife (no pics), daughter, mom, and mom in law.

Theater was hot as balls.
Go to concession stand and ask if they can turn the AC up.
Worker says "Oh, in theater 6? Yeah, we know its an issue. We need to get someone to look at it."

Tempted to walk out and ask for money back, but family wanted to stay and watch the movie.

Movie was great, daughter cried - but it doesn't take a lot for her to cry in a movie. Stayed fairly close to the book.

Sweated balls off.

8/10 movie
1/10 temperature in theater
This post was edited on 3/23/26 at 1:54 pm
Posted by The Pirate King
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 3/23/26 at 12:37 pm to
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I told my wife the other day that this may be the greatest cinematic glossing over of human beings achieving light speed travel that I can recall. In most sci-fi films, it tends to be a much bigger deal made.


I think with a 2:36 runtime they were already pushing the attention span of most moviegoers under 40. It didn't bother me, but given how the movie felt more family-friendly, I'm not shocked they stayed away from deep cuts on the science.

I also felt like the movie did a good job of holding attention by being unique, and not employing the same tropes from other science fiction movies...they borrowed some concepts without duplicating them.
Posted by BRich
Old Metairie
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 3/23/26 at 1:44 pm to
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Saw it last night. Took the wife (no pics), wife, mom, and mom in law.


You a Mormon?
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 3/23/26 at 1:53 pm to
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You a Mormon?



shite. No way I'm spending my life disappointing two women. Typo.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:14 pm to
Probably a dumb question but did the two astronauts kill themselves or die of some other cause? Seems like it would be a bit early to hit the KYS button in that situation, but I also don’t remember them explaining some other reason they would’ve died on ship. I get they were just going to send the probe back and the plan was to kill themselves but I’d prob atleast stick around to see some stuff no human has come close to ever experiencing before
Posted by DoomGuy504
Member since May 2024
475 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:20 pm to
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No Dad is 72 and he was completely unserious. For the last bit of the movie he was probably thinking of what joke he was going to tell once it ended



ok so we have the same dad.
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:23 pm to
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Probably a dumb question but did the two astronauts kill themselves or die of some other cause? Seems like it would be a bit early to hit the KYS button in that situation, but I also don’t remember them explaining some other reason they would’ve died on ship. I get they were just going to send the probe back and the plan was to kill themselves but I’d prob atleast stick around to see some stuff no human has come close to ever experiencing before



I guess the movie didn't cover that. In the book, they died in transit because of some issue with the induced coma.
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
7496 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:24 pm to
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Seems like it would be a bit early to hit the KYS button in that situation, but I also don’t remember them explaining some other reason they would’ve died on ship. 


It was glossed over. They died during coma, as coma is incredibly dangerous for such long durations. Even getting to the physical location of Tau Ceti was enormously difficult, notwithstanding the science that needed to be discovered once there.

The book explains that you can't have people awake/alive in such conditions for long periods - they'll kill each other, literally. Coma is required to make such a journey, but this, too, is extremely hazardous to health, as some people cannot survive, even if they are otherwise healthy.
Posted by LewDawg
Member since May 2009
77516 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:31 pm to
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I know this wasn't directed at me but I found it to be far less captivating than The Martian and Project hail Mary. Decent read, but nothing spectacular. I wouldn't call it a must read.

I feel the same. I was entertained, but not enthralled if that makes sense.
Posted by LewDawg
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:32 pm to
I read Shogun and King Rat already. I was going to go in chronological order, but I think I'll skip Gai-Jin for Noble House.
Posted by DeoreDX
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:41 pm to
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Probably a dumb question but did the two astronauts kill themselves or die of some other cause?


Somewhere on the internets I recall reading a quip where Any Weir mentioned the reason those two died is the seeds for an idea for a sequel to PHM but the whole idea is really far from being able to be made into a book. Did I dream that up or does anyone have a reference?
Posted by DeoreDX
Member since Oct 2010
4337 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:48 pm to
Book reader took my wife and 17yo son to see it and they had zero clue about the movie neither having even seen a trailer. Wife was super pissed for a moment thinking Rocky had died If he stayed dead we probably would be divorced today.

Both the wife and son really loved it.

I understand and accept most all of the changes they had to make to fit it into a 2.5 hour movie. I do think it would have worked better and not really taken much more time if they had followed the book a little more and had Grace put rocky back into his environment after Rocky saves him
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116171 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:54 pm to
I just listened to a Mr Sunday Movies recap vid that mentioned the same thing about that being seeds for a sequel book. Not sure how that would be fleshed out in a book but maybe it’s just a knot he plans to work out in a sequel that isn’t super directly tied to those events
Posted by Jor Jor The Dinosaur
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2014
7465 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:16 pm to
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It was a relatively important hiccup to solve,
Except for the Eridians, who just had to stick astrophage in a container and throw it into ocean.
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