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re: Plea to Make the MTV Board Great Again
Posted on 2/5/18 at 11:08 am to VinegarStrokes
Posted on 2/5/18 at 11:08 am to VinegarStrokes
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one season long discussion thread
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They used to do this on this board a few years ago. I seem to remember it being done with Arrested Development Season 4 specifically, and I'm sure it was done with others as well. I thought it worked well.
The first few seasons of Breaking Bad, we did that way. I used to have those season threads bookmarked, and would bump all of them right before the next season started. Then, one season, some guy just started making a thread a day or two before each episode, and we never had one for the whole season again.
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Posted on 2/5/18 at 11:15 am to chinese58
I think the MTV board's biggest problem is just a spilling over from other parts of popular culture into the MTV board.
It isn't primarily an opinion problem because people have always had a wide range of different opinions on film and television. The biggest problem is an intolerance of and incivility for differing opinions.
Time and again you'll see people attack the character or motivations of someone with a different opinion. This is juvenile stuff that makes you an a-hole when you do it and your opinion unlikely to convert anyone who wasn't already on your side.
It isn't primarily an opinion problem because people have always had a wide range of different opinions on film and television. The biggest problem is an intolerance of and incivility for differing opinions.
Time and again you'll see people attack the character or motivations of someone with a different opinion. This is juvenile stuff that makes you an a-hole when you do it and your opinion unlikely to convert anyone who wasn't already on your side.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 11:15 am to King George
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Posted on 2/5/18 at 11:31 am to DelU249
quote:The film industry's preoccupation or the audiences?
I think the preoccupation with being woke negatively impacted the quality
quote:I absolutely agree.
however, it's not why the movies suck if I look at them just by themselves
quote:That's how you do a woke movie though. I didn't like it that much but it was well executed from a woke standpoint.
get out is woke...I like get out
quote:Probably intended to be woke. However, I just care about the movie itself and yes it's a total piece of shite.
last jedi is woke...but it's also just a terrible movie
Posted on 2/5/18 at 11:31 am to molsusports
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I think the MTV board's biggest problem is just a spilling over from other parts of popular culture into the MTV board.
I gave my thoughts about this in another thread one day.
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Why do so many TD's posters care about movie stars' politics? Why do posters think people on a Movie and TV board care about their politics, or the politics of movie stars. The craziest thing is it's the same people that quit watching the NFL because players were politicizing things. The same people that now hate ESPN for politicizing things are politicizing the M/TV Board.
The worst thing about the most recent Star Wars movie is the acceptance of people voicing their political views on this board. It's like all of the Fox TV guys from the OT, and the Politics boards came here to post about their displeasure in the Star Wars movie. and stayed.
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/display.aspx?sp=74741124&b=25&s=1&p=74726061
In the past, we just talked about the merits of the movie or TV show. It felt like this was the only board where you didn't have to deal with all of the right vs. left crap. Feels like this board has decayed to the level of social media, or the OT.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 11:34 am to molsusports
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I think the MTV board's biggest problem is just a spilling over from other parts of popular culture into the MTV board.
It isn't primarily an opinion problem because people have always had a wide range of different opinions on film and television. The biggest problem is an intolerance of and incivility for differing opinions.
I think its this more than anything, and for that, I must take some of the blame as one of the admins here. I've always believed in regulating conversation as little as possible and letting this place police itself. This has always been one of the most civil and collegial boards on the site. Even in disagreements, there's been a healthy respect for people's opinions.
And I think that's not true anymore. We are all just meaner to each other, less tolerant of opposing viewpoints, and most importantly, like Barton Fink WE. JUST. DON'T LISTEN.
It's not that there aren't good movies coming out. There's plenty of good movies coming out. The Oscar slate always gets derided, but there's a nice range of interesting films on it. We're in a golden age of horror movies. There's been some outstanding indies (mother!, Faces Places, Brawl in Cell Block 99). It's not just CGI fests, which I'd argue are better than they've ever been, as a group. And that doesn't get into TV.
Disagreement is cool, it's what makes discussion good. Being a jerk isn't. It is on each of us to raise the tenor of debate.
Be nicer.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 11:39 am to King George
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Well I guess I'm just naive because I don't spend my free time considering how studios promote their movies. I have enough things in my life that actually matter.
I always laugh my arse off when people say shite like this while arguing on an internet message board.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 11:41 am to DelU249
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in fact they went back and spent a bunch of money on reshoots for ghostbusters to add a bunch of jabs at the youtube commenters who didn't like their trailer
Yeah, the villain of that movie has to be the worst and most petty villain ever put to screen. There's no way they had that guy originally in mind, and then they just got pissed off that basement dwellers didn't like a female Ghostbusters remake. If you're going to go that route, at least rip off someone like Syndrome. That was just pathetic.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 11:47 am to King George
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I didn't get "feminist propaganda piece". I got a shite movie with female comedians instead of male comedians playing the title roles. It had a terrible script with two of the title roles filled by talentless actresses. But at no point did I feel that I was having feminism shoved down my throat.
Really? The villain was a basement dwelling YouTube commenter who they called a loser at the end of every sentence. That's the most petty, pathetic, and passive aggressive villain to ever make it to the screen. It's a direct middle finger to the audience.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm sure it was a girl-power idea to cast it the way they did but the final product itself didn't come off to me as a vehicle for furthering the female agenda.
Name one male in that movie that either wasn't an idiot, an a-hole, or a dweeb? Meanwhile, every woman in this movie farts daisies.
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As a matter of fact, the only remotely feminist joke I can remember from the movie was shooting the 100' tall ghost in the dick and I'm pretty sure that's the only time I laughed.
Yeah, this slipped my mind. Real subtle.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 11:51 am to King George
quote:We aren't looking for anything. The studios proudly proclaim that they are doing it, and then they go all out and creativity and fun take a back seat in favor of their social engineering.
I would say that the M/TV Board looking for SJW messages in every movie is killing the board.
It probably escapes them that people won't be "taught" anything by a shitty, unmemorable movie. If anything, the obvious force feeding attempt will have the opposite effect.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 11:53 am to King George
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Well Finn was black in TFA and there wasn't much he could do about it between movies.
I have no major problem with Finn as a character or his race. If anything, JJ knew that the fans were pissed off with Jorge making the clones Stormtroopers, and he knew a black guy would immediately emphasize that they aren't clones and he also put a line explicitly about them not being clones.
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I don't disagree with fact the Finn/Rose storyline was bullshite and probablyy added to snag the Asian market. But that's not the same thing as an SJW message. That's just business.
Really? The worst planet in the galaxy is Monaco? I was under some sort of impression that the people who sold weapons to Boba Fett were mom and pop type stores? Damn all jockeys and rich people? It was worth it to release these alien horses that will certainly be tracked down by dawn all to frick up a casino that the slaves you left behind will clean?
Come on man.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 11:54 am to Breesus
quote:Well it's true. I am not a professional at looking for shite to be upset about. Don't you even see how much you and the SJWs are alike in this regard?
I always laugh my arse off when people say shite like this while arguing on an internet message board.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 11:57 am to King George
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I thought that was out of place compared to the previous movies.
A perfect summary of The Last Jedi.
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So if the purle-haired chick was cast as a dude that didn't like Poe's fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants antics and if Rose was a dude-a white dude-would that change how you feel about the movie?
My question is why are these characters even here? Why not give Ackbar a glorious death instead of this woman, and then Poe just goes off with Finn as was originally written. Problem solved.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 12:02 pm to Baloo
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Disagreement is cool, it's what makes discussion good. Being a jerk isn't. It is on each of us to raise the tenor of debate.
Which it is stunning to me that Wild Thang can come in, shite on everyone, and is still allowed to post. I really don't understand it.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 12:06 pm to OMLandshark
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Why not give Ackbar a glorious death instead of this woman
I don't care about the SJW argument, but having Ackbar die while luring the Empire into a trap would've been awesome.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 12:11 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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I don't care about the SJW argument, but having Ackbar die while luring the Empire into a trap would've been awesome.
Having Ackbar hit the hyperdrive then cutting to one of the First Order officers yelling "It's a trap!" would have made the audience lose their goddamn minds
Posted on 2/5/18 at 12:52 pm to King George
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Posted on 2/5/18 at 1:02 pm to OMLandshark
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As a matter of fact, the only remotely feminist joke I can remember from the movie was
OK. I don't know if it's a race thang or a lady thang but I'm mad as hell.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 1:03 pm to King George
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I would say that the M/TV Board looking for SJW messages in every movie is killing the board.
Correct.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 1:05 pm to King George
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