re: Peter Jackson trying to negotiate with the Tolkien estate for the Silmarillion

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Just get it all away from Amazon, please God

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Amazon doesn't have any of the Silmarillion rights.

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Nobody does. Nobody ever has, which is why this is a big deal.
For the record, nobody does for gaming, either. You might see a mod, but nobody can officially take anything from that, unless it's specifically referenced in LotR or The Hobbit.

This is part of the reason Rings of Power exists, and a big reason it's bad. They can't use much of the lore, and they have sucked at making up alternative backstories.
You can avoid that issue altogether if you can actually use what Tolkien wrote. And since it's in big-picture, almost outline form, there's plenty of room to fill in dialog and scenes. That part might end up being cringe, but at least you won't find yourself yelling "no, that's all WRONG! That's not where Gandalf came from"...

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kinda like Dune. i gave up after the first 3 books. just lost my interest entirely.

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some folks can golden path, some can't

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If Peter Jackson wants to make more LOTR films, then why not do the war in the north? Wouldn’t they already have the rights since it was mentioned in the LOTR books and appendicies?

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This is a damn good suggestion. Yeah, they have the rights since it's in the appendices, and they have already established the relevant locations in past movies.
The studios probably won't sign off, because A) no hobbits , and B) no main characters from the original trilogy would be trotted back out (like old Legolas inserted into The Hobbit, and now Aragorn and Gandalf in this Hunt for Gollum flick. Which apparently has hobbits ).

But honestly, you could make the end of The Hunt for Gollum show his escape, which would lead into the war in the North. And that could be a nice and tidy trilogy:

1: pre-conflict, then the attack by the Easterlings on Dale and Erebor. Dol Guldur launches an attack north into The Woodland Realm, and the first attack on Lorien. You end that with the fall of Dale and retreat into Erebor, bloody (and forest fire) fighting in the Woodland Realm, and Lorien defeats the first attack (due to Galadriel's magic fences around the wood). Radagast (not in the books, but also not NOT in the books) shows up in Mirkwood to help out and advise Thranduil. Maybe he (a fricking Istari focused on nature, after all) deals with the spiders.

2: Siege of Erebor; 2nd attack on Lorien which also fails. War in Mirkwood against the orcs and spiders etc continues. Radagast could advise Thranduil to push on Dol Guldur instead of helping Erebor after winning ("they're safe in their mountain").

3: Woodland elves move on Dol Guldur (Radagast could help coordinate them meeting up with Celeborn's forces). Radagast contacts the Eagles and sends them south to Mordor. Lorien defeats the 3rd attack, and Celeborn keeps rolling straight towards Dol Guldur instead of stopping at the borders of Lorien. He and Thranduil link up, and take Dol Guldur. Galadriel destroys the fortress. Erebor breaks the siege and routs the Easterlings.
Galadriel, Celeborn and Thranduil talk briefly about the war in the South, with Thranduil saying he's going to help his neighbors up in Erebor and Dale, please send my regards to my son. Galadriel and Celeborn get ready to head south to Gondor. Radagast goes north with Thranduil.

This would overlay well with the LotR trilogy, restore some dignity to Radagast (and explain his absence), tie in the Eagles connection etc. You'd only have Thranduil, Galadriel, Celeborn, and Dain (and Radagast?) from prior movies. I think Lee Pace can still do Thranduil. Cate Blanchett is getting old, but looks decent enough that maybe with makeup, some de-aging, and limited screen time, you can get away with her still... save her for big moments. Don't think anyone would notice if you recast Celeborn and Dain, or Radagast either for that matter.

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lost faith in PJ with this shite after The Hobbit trilogy. Somwhow the CGI in those movies looked worse on screen than the original trilogy. We live in an age where live action and special effects are dead, and film is worse off for it. Technology is failing in this area.

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There’s not good explanation for that.

He wasn’t given the time to develop the Hobbit properly. He had 3 years to prepare for LotR trilogy. Compare that to 1 year for the Hobitt trilogy. Also because he was told to stretch it out into a trilogy to make more money. These should have been condensed to one longer film. There’s a well done fan-made cut out there that does just this.

That said, the time he did have was devoted to getting the important scenes right (Bilbo/Gollim in the depths, Mirkwood, Smaug, etc).

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Someone needs to remake the Hobbit as one or at most two movies

Already been done with the maple edit that cuts down the trilogy to 4 hours.

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Its not just that the trilogy is too long, it changes the story and the overall tone. It needs to be more of a kid friendly version that sets the stage for LOTR, which is much darker. It was a money grab to be a sequel to LOTR. I would like someone to redo it completely with Tolkien's vision in mind.

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This is a damn good suggestion. Yeah, they have the rights since it's in the appendices, and they have already established the relevant locations in past movies. The studios probably won't sign off, because A) no hobbits , and B) no main characters from the original trilogy would be trotted back out (like old Legolas inserted into The Hobbit, and now Aragorn and Gandalf in this Hunt for Gollum flick. Which apparently has hobbits ). But honestly, you could make the end of The Hunt for Gollum show his escape, which would lead into the war in the North. And that could be a nice and tidy trilogy: 1: pre-conflict, then the attack by the Easterlings on Dale and Erebor. Dol Guldur launches an attack north into The Woodland Realm, and the first attack on Lorien. You end that with the fall of Dale and retreat into Erebor, bloody (and forest fire) fighting in the Woodland Realm, and Lorien defeats the first attack (due to Galadriel's magic fences around the wood). Radagast (not in the books, but also not NOT in the books) shows up in Mirkwood to help out and advise Thranduil. Maybe he (a fricking Istari focused on nature, after all) deals with the spiders. 2: Siege of Erebor; 2nd attack on Lorien which also fails. War in Mirkwood against the orcs and spiders etc continues. Radagast could advise Thranduil to push on Dol Guldur instead of helping Erebor after winning ("they're safe in their mountain"). 3: Woodland elves move on Dol Guldur (Radagast could help coordinate them meeting up with Celeborn's forces). Radagast contacts the Eagles and sends them south to Mordor. Lorien defeats the 3rd attack, and Celeborn keeps rolling straight towards Dol Guldur instead of stopping at the borders of Lorien. He and Thranduil link up, and take Dol Guldur. Galadriel destroys the fortress. Erebor breaks the siege and routs the Easterlings. Galadriel, Celeborn and Thranduil talk briefly about the war in the South, with Thranduil saying he's going to help his neighbors up in Erebor and Dale, please send my regards to my son. Galadriel and Celeborn get ready to head south to Gondor. Radagast goes north with Thranduil. This would overlay well with the LotR trilogy, restore some dignity to Radagast (and explain his absence), tie in the Eagles connection etc. You'd only have Thranduil, Galadriel, Celeborn, and Dain (and Radagast?) from prior movies. I think Lee Pace can still do Thranduil. Cate Blanchett is getting old, but looks decent enough that maybe with makeup, some de-aging, and limited screen time, you can get away with her still... save her for big moments. Don't think anyone would notice if you recast Celeborn and Dain, or Radagast either for that matter.

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Well damn. They need to do all of this.

And if they need to do something hobbity because they just can’t help themselves, you have a giant man bear show up somewhere and wreck shop for real this time.

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you won't find yourself yelling "no, that's all WRONG! That's not where Gandalf came from"...

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Or why the frick is Galadriel wearing plate armor and waving a sword

Bitch can decimate cities

Like Superman using a Glock

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This isn't whether we want them to make one, it's whether they can ever get the rights at all.

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Yea, I'm simply saying I hope they don't get the rights because I don't think Peter Jackson can make a good Silmarillion movie. Or really anyone for that matter.

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But, look at PJ's LOTR actual trilogy, or Villeneuve's Dune... those are "done right". And both followed some lesser attempts. We currently aren't able to get "that" version made either, which is what we would all want to see.

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If Peter Jackson had just done the original LOTR, I probably would be on board with this. Though I've said for actual decades now that I would prefer for them to never do Silmarillion because I just don't think you can cover the source material on screen to do it justice. I think the story of creation has to be told and having a decent portion of your story be angelic/god like creatures doesn't work.

But putting that aside and say you skipped the creation or early aspects of the book, Peter Jackson can no longer be trusted. I'm sorry. The Hobbit movies were for the most part an abomination and an ugly CGI fest. He now considers WAR OF THE ROHIRRAM as cannon. And is now all on board for cash grab spin-off movies like The Hunt for Gollum movie.

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You wait too long, this stuff fades out of public awareness, and isn't the guaranteed hit it would be currently, even if it's good.

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making movies and shows because of public awareness is what got us The Hobbit, Rings of Power, War of the Rohirrim and geezers hunting for Gollum. No thanks on that being a reason to make The Silmarillion.

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Peter Jackson these days.

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Yeah, and his writing partners too. After WotR and the shitty, forthcoming Hunt for Gollum, the future doesn't look bright.

It is far harder to read than Dune. I loved the original Dune books. Silmarillion is a history textbook.