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re: Ozark Finale Discussion **SPOILERS FOR SERIES FINALE!**

Posted on 5/9/22 at 7:54 am to
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
90331 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 7:54 am to
We finished it this weekend and I don't have much to add that hasn't already been mentiond here. REally lousy finish and honestly the entire last season was a chore to get through. Season 1 was SO DAMN GOOD, I mean it wans't quite breaking bad but it wasn't THAT far below it IMO. Then it just consistently declind all the way to the finish line. There was just entirely too much shite going on ALL THE TIME to really even stay engaged in. As for the ending and final season

-They haphazardly throw together 2 characters right at the end. We've known camila for like 3 episodes, why should anyone care about her? We don't even know her. Why as the view should we care whether her or omar wins?

-bringing back rachel..what? I undersatnd they pikced her instaed of a random new cast because she has a history and would want ot screw over the byrdes. But this is a woman that has fought hard to copmletely move on from the ozark life and start fresh, and it looks liek she's healthy and happy in miami. So one visit from ruth and the next day she's on a plane to the ozarks to work around drugs and booze in a casino like she just escaped from? Did she quit her job? What about her home? Did she move back permanently?

-the shaw medical lady..I just never really cared about her or her story.

-In the first season the cartel was represented by Del and that guy was scary. He's replaced by navarro who just seems like a potbellied hispanic guy you'd see at a neighborhood bbq. Then at the very end we get his sister who is even less scary. Shouldn't we be fearful of these cahracters? Also something tells me that if omar was in prison as a 100% direct result of the byrdes putting them there, they wouldn't still be living

-Marty running the cartel? Come the frick on. I mean i know this show requires some disbelief but that takes the cake. Whitebread marty byrde is going to go to mexico and RUN THE CARTEL? ANd he sits down with them one by one going over each person's books like a math teacher checking their students' work.

-The local PD still doesn't really seem all that concerned that the former sherriff is missing even though they presumably know where he was going the last time he was alive.

-Ozark was awesome when you had the byrdes in town trying to launder money for the cartel and a cast of smart but hillbilly locals getting in their way like the langmores and the snells. That was tense TV drama. But then you introduce more cartel people, the KC mob, a PI, a pharmaceutical company executive, jonah byrd working for a competing operation, a casino boat, the FBI, Wendy entering politics in a way that I still don't even really understand, etc...it's just too damn much. There were far too many storylines going on at one and all seemed ot be resolved just as quickly as they crop up.

-WTF WAS THE POINT OF THE CAR CRASH

-Lastly I know the town PD is on the take but at some point they would just invent something to arrest the byrdes on considering what's happened in the town in teh short time since they arrived. The ozarks was not perfect and did have this illicit activity oging on (that cops knew about) pre-byrds but since they arrived there is a laundry list of locals that have died, and that's not even counting people that law enforcement doesn't even know about like Del for instance. But ones they are/shoudl be aware of off the top of my head: jacob snell, their employee Ash, he sleezy strip club owner, the pastor's wife, darlene, wyatt, ruths' dad I think?, , the former sherriff, ben, and probably countless others. At some point PD would be like "man everyone the byrdes associate with dies, I wonder if that's a coincidence"

This post was edited on 5/9/22 at 8:54 am
Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
6711 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 8:36 am to
I hated the ending. Wendy should have died in a painful slow fashion in the finale.
The show really began to become unrealistic when they bought the riverboat for the casino. That thing was a toy. A tiny little paddlewheel, that looked huge every time they had a scene inside it. Totally unbelievable and downright laughable.
Maybe the boat was like a Tardis.
Posted by kballa6
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
4184 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 12:11 pm to
Finished it last night and was disappointed. I should have known to expect disappointment in retrospect but I held out hope.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81646 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 1:45 pm to
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ANd he sits down with them one by one going over each person's books like a math teacher checking their students' work.


And they all keep detailed paper accounting ledgers for their illegal cartel business in case they're raided.
Posted by whiskey over ice
Member since Sep 2020
3760 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

I don't have much to add that hasn't already been mentiond here.


Proceeds to write an essay
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
13142 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 3:32 pm to
quote:

Why as the view should we care whether her or omar wins?


We’re not supposed to care who wins. They spend the last half of this season telling you over and over it doesn’t matter.

quote:

bringing back rachel..what? I undersatnd they pikced her instaed of a random new cast because she has a history and would want ot screw over the byrdes.


Opportunity

quote:

-WTF WAS THE POINT OF THE CAR CRASH


Cringey and lazy. Agreed.

quote:

-Lastly I know the town PD is on the take but at some point they would just invent something to arrest the byrdes on considering what's happened in the town in teh short time since they arrived.


They’re powerless and outgunned on so many levels.

I thought the last second half of the season was fantastic up until the finale. Finale wasn’t the worst I’ve seen. But it wasn’t good.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
43196 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 3:57 pm to
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And Camila was a late addition as is


I really hate that Ruth was killed by a character that was only on the show for 3-4 episodes. Camila existed to kill Ruth and not much else.
Posted by StrongOffer
Member since Sep 2020
6932 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

Wendy should have died in a painful slow fashion in the finale.
Marty and Wendy should have died together like the Lannisters. They were meant for each other.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89063 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 5:21 pm to
quote:

-bringing back rachel..what? I undersatnd they pikced her instaed of a random new cast because she has a history and would want ot screw over the byrdes.


I honestly thought she had OD’d and was dead.

quote:

WTF WAS THE POINT OF THE CAR CRASH


Metaphorical. It was to show that the Byrdes were untouchable. A car crash that should’ve killed everybody in the vehicle…yet nobody even gets a scratch. It was the writers’ way of foreshadowing that nothing, not even dumb fate, was going to bring this family down.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39270 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 7:27 pm to
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-the shaw medical lady..I just never really cared about her or her story.


As far as I could tell, it was just another vehicle to show how rabidly aggressive and stupid Wendy had become. Same with Camilla too. Seems like the last two seasons was mostly Wendy doing stupid shite and Marty trying to fix them.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39270 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 7:29 pm to
quote:

I must have missed something with the story line. I thought there was a plot to also take out Camilla and Marty run the Cartel for the FBI

There was but it changed many times based on what Wendy thought would best help accomplish her own goals.
Posted by WinnaSez
Jackson, MS
Member since Mar 2019
1394 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 11:00 pm to
My main takeaway from this season is John Boy Walton playing a legit masterful villain. The Waltons was 40 years ago. Where has he been? Was he typecast? Did he take a break from acting? Richard Thomas was great in this role. He stole that scene with Wendy begging on the steps as well as the scene with Ruth and him in the hotel room.
This post was edited on 5/9/22 at 11:32 pm
Posted by LSUalum2000
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
3716 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 7:55 am to
quote:

quote:
WTF WAS THE POINT OF THE CAR CRASH


Metaphorical. It was to show that the Byrdes were untouchable. A car crash that should’ve killed everybody in the vehicle…yet nobody even gets a scratch. It was the writers’ way of foreshadowing that nothing, not even dumb fate, was going to bring this family down.


this makes a lot of sense now that i think about it.
Posted by Darkknight
Member since Mar 2012
1416 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 8:30 am to
Show went downhill after they stopped showing the lovely ladies working at Lickety Splitz. Somewhere mid Season 3 I think
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65453 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 8:47 am to
Good rundown. I also thought the Spanish speaking with no subtitles was pretentious and annoying. why don't they have Japanese speakers? Chinese? Russian? Maybe do the whole episode in Spanish.

That was just mindlessly woke bullshite, asskissing Hispanics like Spanish is the only other language in the world and giving the middle finger to English speakers for no reason other than spite.
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
18236 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 9:02 am to
quote:

Metaphorical. It was to show that the Byrdes were untouchable. A car crash that should’ve killed everybody in the vehicle…yet nobody even gets a scratch. It was the writers’ way of foreshadowing that nothing, not even dumb fate, was going to bring this family down.


Aside from being metaphorical, Wendy explicitly said this in one of her conversations with the cartel priest.

The priest said (something like), the car crash was a sign from God that you need to change your ways, and she said, no, it was a sign that we are untouchable (or something similar).
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81646 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 9:42 am to
quote:

Where has he been? Was he typecast? Did he take a break from acting?


He was the FBI branch boss in the Americans
Posted by Corso
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2020
12286 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 9:55 am to
quote:

My main takeaway from this season is John Boy Walton playing a legit masterful villain


Agree I thought he was fantastic

Others have pointed it out but I knew the episode wasn't going to be great when Ruth just strolled up to a dark SUV knowing that a damn drug cartel was trying to kill her. I can't believe no one involved with this show was like "wait, why the hell would she do that"
Posted by DivotBreath
On the course
Member since Oct 2007
3725 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 10:10 am to
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Others have pointed it out but I knew the episode wasn't going to be great when Ruth just strolled up to a dark SUV knowing that a damn drug cartel was trying to kill her. I can't believe no one involved with this show was like "wait, why the hell would she do that"


It would have been better if Three had been on the trailer roof and taken her out with a rifle . . . Stepped down and walked past Ruth and said “You’re the one that doesn’t know how to act rich.”
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36749 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 10:43 am to
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And they all keep detailed paper accounting ledgers for their illegal cartel business in case they're raided.

i feel like this is in freakonomics but correct me if im wrong. it's been a while.

there was a chapter on a street gang and they were incredibly organized and had amazing records/accounting/etc...

the wire kind of does this as well with stringer, no? i didn't think this part was that crazy.
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