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re: Official WandaVision Season 1 Finale thread

Posted on 3/6/21 at 12:45 am to
Posted by Tigermite
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 12:45 am to
I watched last weeks episode half asleep. I remember now. Her seeing vision all disected in the lab. Reminded me of robocop.

Still wanna know who woo was calling at the end. Probably something else i missed from an earlier episode.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 1:30 am to
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Please stop with the, “If you don’t like it you must not be able to understand it” nonsense. This series’ greatest strength seems to be the vague hints that allow the viewers to extrapolate it into a much better program.


L-O-L

Hated the show when it was total mystery.

Gushed over the show when Boner was Peter Maximoff

Back to hating when your dream was crushed, for now.

Ton of shite was dropped in the finale. Wanda and Vison had unbelievable scenes. Dealing with grief in a way that hasn’t been seen in comic book genre. A massive transform and upgrade in power level. A existential discussion mirroring a characters debut. Post credit scenes that show the kids are still alive while playing the theme of her next opponent.

The Darkhold reveal. A true origin for The Scarlet Witch years after her introduction. Great stuff.

Cookie cutter? No sir, this isn’t FoX..Was it perfect? No, Hayward going full baddie was dumb.

by all means continue your shtick, but just like Boner it’s kind of flaccid.
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 7:40 am to
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while playing the theme of her next opponent.


Explain this please
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 7:57 am to
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Cookie cutter? No sir, this isn’t FoX..Was it perfect? No, Hayward going full baddie was dumb.


Hayward isn't a baddie He's just a typical government cloak and dagger type of guy that screwed up. Nick Fury pulled the same type of shite.
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 9:42 am to
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I was really hoping Reed Richards was gonna show up in the finale, answering the challenge Photon texted to the "aerospace engineer".

That mini-plot point went unanswered.


I think people just hyped themselves too much. We’re years off from F4, they won’t be appearing just yet which is fine. I took her “aerospace engineer” to be the military lady she spoke with. On a broader note, that and the mid credits seems to lend to Monica herself going to space as an astronaut and having a big part in Captain Marvel 2 and Secret Invasion. She’s a great new character, so that’s exciting.

The end credits scene is the really interesting one. The Darkhold is not a book to be played with and Dr. Strange likely ain’t gonna like Wanda doing so. I absolutely didn’t expect but love we got a true Scarlet Witch origin AND absolute banger of a new costume. Wanda is still just scratching the surface of her raw power which needs practice and training. I cannot wait for her and Strange to have an epic duel in MoM
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 9:53 am to
Why was Hayward arrested? Was reassembling vision illegal?
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 10:26 am to
"Stephen, I'm not here to bargain."
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 10:27 am to
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Explain this please


Doctor Strange theme plays when she is astrally reading the Darkhold.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23157 posts
Posted on 3/6/21 at 10:29 am to
So New Vision is out there somewhere with all of old Vision’s memories except for whatever happened in West View?

That being said, wouldn’t he remember how much he loves Wanda?? I’m trying to understand why he didn’t just convert to good at that very instant and team up with the other Vision to go ham on the others.
This post was edited on 3/6/21 at 10:32 am
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 10:31 am to
You know I never really cared about Vision, but now I’m just as invested in him as I am in Wanda. I’m curious to where his story would continue though. As a supporting character in another movie I’m guessing, but whose?
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 10:35 am to
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You know I never really cared about Vision, but now I’m just as invested in him as I am in Wanda. I’m curious to where his story would continue though. As a supporting character in another movie I’m guessing, but whose?




Didn’t WV Vision basically restore White Vision back to IW Vision?? Wouldn’t he “remember” his feelings toward Wanda?
Posted by Scoob
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Member since Jun 2009
23528 posts
Posted on 3/6/21 at 10:51 am to
After a day of processing it, I don't see how anyone could complain about what we got in this show.

9x 30+ minute episodes, so a bit more than an actual movie.
Deep dive into Wanda's history, and development moving forward into the actual Scarlet Witch character.
Agatha Harkness as "villain"- seems not awe inspiring, but totally fits the theme. Wanda's a clueless but powerful witch, Agatha's a witch with knowledge and training. Agatha is more of a gray area instead of a baddie, she does want to stop Wanda from wreaking havoc. Wanda in the end wins, takes the Darkhold (to learn from), and retains Agatha (so she stops her but doesn't kill, or turn her over to the authorities). So, Wanda is a bit vindictive, but Agatha is available for future projects.

As for things not fulfilled- Monica's engineer, etc. That was left open, so it COULD be Reed Richards etc. Mephisto was never seen, but someone wrote the book, and Agatha said "you don't know what you've done"; that's still open too.
You could hear the kids at the end, so her fake world may well be a different dimension, instead of just her imagination. Multiverse is thus still intact.
Monica Rambeau, the Skrull, Sword, a lot of things coming out of this.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 10:59 am to
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Explain this please


When she was reading the Darkhold, Dr.Strange’s theme started playing
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
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Member since May 2018
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 11:03 am to
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Hayward isn't a baddie He's just a typical government cloak and dagger type of guy that screwed up. Nick Fury pulled the same type of shite.


I’d say by most metrics pulling a gun and firing on children is considered going into bad guy realm.
Posted by lagallifrey
Member since Dec 2013
2010 posts
Posted on 3/6/21 at 11:26 am to
Not to mention Vision being remade, now alive and on a journey to rediscover himself. The vision vs vision conversation was such a joy to watch.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23157 posts
Posted on 3/6/21 at 12:50 pm to
I just wanted to say Agatha (In true movie bad guy fashion) felt the need to explain to Wanda why her powers don’t work in Agatha’s basement.

If Agatha didn’t provide that little tidbit then she probably wins in the end
Posted by Dr RC
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 1:02 pm to
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And we got trolled by Bettany and Liz with the Skywalker cameo.


There's a post on Reddit that shows Olsen never actually said there was a Skywalker level cameo. She simply said there was a cameo she was surprised hadn't leaked. The website that reported it came up with the Skywalker bit for their click bait headline. Reddit LINK TVLine clickbait LINK

Also, if you watch the Bettany interview you can kind of tell he's joking around though to be fair British sarcasm isn't necessarily always the easiest thing to pick up on. LINK

So while Bettany may deserve a little shite b/c his sense of humor was too dry for many to realize he was being a smart arse about having scenes with himself Olsen shouldn't get any crap b/c she didn't even say what has been attributed to her.
This post was edited on 3/6/21 at 1:06 pm
Posted by musick
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 2:46 pm to
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Better than suddenly being a master of the powers she JUST got that day.


Phasing bullets coming from a gun at that speed feels like mastering powers she just got that day.

Spotting the necklace did not.

But all of a sudden phasing bullets in a split second seems like a reach after just obtaining them earlier (btw with a dumb reach as well, taking off the added protection she just put on and throwing it on the ground before charging into the danger of hex, so idiotic). The Rambeaux plot holes aren't getting discussed enough, this is a problem with the power marvel has now, they get just a pass on terrible moments like this.
This post was edited on 3/6/21 at 2:47 pm
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17576 posts
Posted on 3/6/21 at 3:00 pm to
Hate to see the series end. But, this was definitely a fun ride.

Marvel trolled the shite out of us with that Evan Peters casting. It's funny but also disappointing. It was fun to speculate though.

It was cool seeing Wanda do her brain magic again and placing Agatha in her personal nightmare. Definitely reminiscent of AoU.

How tf did Wanda learn how to do the runes thing. Just because Agatha explained what it was didn't doesn't explain that Wanda would be able to automatically put it into practice.

After White Vision had his memories unlocked, he dipped. He didn't even attempt to speak with Wanda. I'm assuming that although he has his memories, he doesn't necessarily have his feelings or emotions. Who knows where he goes now. Ultron and Stark, the 2 people primarily responsible for creating him are both dead. So maybe he's just a loner now searching for a purpose. Any speculation on what movie we can expect to see him in next?


Monica didn't look too surprised when the lady switched to her Skrull form. Wondering if she already has knowledge about them.

Kinda disappointed that Hayward went from a guy with questionable motives but perhaps good intentions to a guy who tried to straight up murder children.

I was really looking forward to a Reed Richards introduction, especially since F4 has already been confirmed. Also disappointed that Strange didn't show up, although Agatha basically name-dropped him. And with Wanda fricking with that book, Strange will 100% intervene then.

Strange says he keeps a tab on all magical entities that are a threat to earth(or something to that extent). I wonder if Agatha is on that list. I'd also be more interested to see more of her backstory. What has she been doing since the 1800s. More than likely after Wanda fricks some shite up she gonna go back to Westview to awaken Agatha to seek help in controlling her powers.

I must say, I really grew to love Visions character in this series. It sucks we may never see him in this essence again. Unless white Vision somehow comes around, but I doubt it.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 3/6/21 at 3:04 pm to
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Monica didn't look too surprised when the lady switched to her Skrull form. Wondering if she already has knowledge about them.


Did you even watch Captain Marvel?

11-year old Monica had 3 Skrulls in her house.
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