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re: Official Walking Dead S07E04"Service" Thread (NO SPOILERS)

Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:40 am to
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:40 am to
there is no doubt in my mind that the pigs being fed walker meat will play a role. I have to assume it's tainted and slowly poisoning them.
Posted by Spilled Milk
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:48 am to
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Pretty sure you're not allowed to say "I just slipped my dick down your throat and you thanked me for it" before 9 pm. It happened like 5 or 10 minutes after the hour.

Can you show me the rules on this since it's cable? What about California?
Posted by Josh Fenderman
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:05 am to
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Why would they go through the trouble to hide Maggie?

So she can get her revenge
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:27 am to
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They can say whatever they want on cable. Cable isn't regulated by the FCC.


Absolutely, 100% Wrong.

"Do the FCC's rules apply to cable and satellite programming? In the past, the FCC has enforced the indecency and profanity prohibitions only against conventional broadcast services, not against subscription programming services such as cable and satellite. However, the prohibition against obscene programming applies to subscription programming services at all times."

https://www.fcc.gov/reports-research/guides/obscenity-indecency-profanity-faq
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:45 am to
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there is no doubt in my mind that the pigs being fed walker meat will play a role. I have to assume it's tainted and slowly poisoning them.


The purpose of that is to show that the people of the kingdom hate Negan and the Saviors. They will be allies when Rick gets tired of fellating Negan and a war starts. It's pretty simple and straight forward.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 11/14/16 at 12:08 pm to
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meanwhile the kingdom is happy making cobbler and singing dylan songs. it doesnt make any sense


You can infer what happened based off of what we know pretty easily. Rick and co. fought back against Negan. He attacked and killed their people. He got the Lucille treatment because he needed to be punished. One can infer from this that Hill Top also rebelled from and fought against Negan. They both got put in their place.

The conclusion that you can then draw from this is that Ezekiel and the Kingdom did not fight with Negan and the Saviors. He peacefully acquiesced and met the demands of Negan. He recognized that he would be just putting his people in danger by trying to directly oppose Negan, and he just went along with the demands. Therefore Negan did not need to terrorize them, and Ezekiel successfully protected his people from even the knowledge of Negan. This may have even been part of their agreement.

It makes perfect, simple sense. You just have to think about it a little.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 11/14/16 at 12:14 pm to
And the reason he is going to continue to frick with Rick and Alexandria is because it's clear as crystal that they will eventually be at war again. He's going to attempt to strip them of their resources and slowly drain all morale before finishing them off. Or at least in his head.

We all know Negan probably gon' die by the end of this season.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/14/16 at 12:51 pm to
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Kind of curious why they didn't do this. They knew the dude was coming. Seems like this should have been the first thing they did...



I get what you're saying but Rick did say negan was early... maybe they planned on doing something
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/14/16 at 1:05 pm to
I don't see negan dying before the season ends... more like he MIGHT die in the finale and we'll be left with a cliffhanger


Also, I wonder what special something rick will have for negan when he returns...A pregnant Maggie maybe? Will he offer up rosita to get on negan's good side?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 11/14/16 at 1:25 pm to
I believe Negan is only a character for this season, fwiw

and
This post was edited on 11/14/16 at 1:26 pm
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34925 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 1:42 pm to
frick no, he's awesome I hope he sticks around somehow... he's one of those bad guys that you have to like. I think he's a great character
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25427 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 1:47 pm to
I think he's too big of a deal to only be around for 1 season. It's like the governor. I think he's around for at least 2 seasons.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34925 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 1:59 pm to
Not sure they can build negan's backstory and destroy his 'kingdom' all in one season


I wouldn't mind his storyline carrying on for a season or three
Posted by TSS4LSU
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2003
1134 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 3:29 pm to
why wouldn't to wall have had a century and saw Negan coming. It would have been easy to gun up and when the gate opens let the lead fly.

It makes no sense to not fight when you have the advantage of knowing the layout of your town and have the arsenal Rick's group has.

Even if you die at least he (Negan) died too.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 3:33 pm to
It really made no sense for Rick not to take Negan out when he found the hidden guns. Dude was just sitting out there with the one chick. He could have easily done it. His group would fall into chaos without him to control them and sure, some of the might try to attack Alexandria, but mostly they would fight amongst themselves.


Also have to wonder why nobody seems to have any real military equipment. The governor has a tank but that was it. Can nobody fly an Apache helicopter in this world? One Apache could take all of Negans people out. Hell even a couple tanks could and driving a tank isn't much different than driving a bulldozer.
This post was edited on 11/14/16 at 4:06 pm
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 11/14/16 at 4:14 pm to
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The conclusion that you can then draw from this is that Ezekiel and the Kingdom did not fight with Negan and the Saviors. He peacefully acquiesced and met the demands of Negan. He recognized that he would be just putting his people in danger by trying to directly oppose Negan, and he just went along with the demands. Therefore Negan did not need to terrorize them, and Ezekiel successfully protected his people from even the knowledge of Negan. This may have even been part of their agreement.

It makes perfect, simple sense. You just have to think about it a little.


that would be extremely lazy writing which i alluded to in my original post. we are shown that negan genuinely enjoys fricking with people and exerting his will in the crudest and most barbaric way possible. from what you have seen of negan, do you really think that ezekial just had to ask him to lay off and he agreed?

that makes no sense whatsoever.
what would negan have to lose if he went ahead and said no, and cracked open a few kingdom dwellers anyway?

Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25427 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 4:30 pm to
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that would be extremely lazy writing which i alluded to in my original post. we are shown that negan genuinely enjoys fricking with people and exerting his will in the crudest and most barbaric way possible.


We have seen that he pragmatically has forced Rick to his will because Rick provoked him. Your assertion that Negan is too much of an a-hole to act in his own self interest is what doesn't make any sense.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109244 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 4:40 pm to
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This shite is weak. Anyone with a brain would've stashed the guns and burned that book. Stupid writing


How do you know they didn't stash some guns and create the list as a way to make Negan think he had all their guns? Rick playing 3D Intergalactic Chess.

Rick gonna MAGA!

Make Alexandria Great Again
This post was edited on 11/14/16 at 4:42 pm
Posted by NOLALGD
Member since May 2014
2755 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 4:42 pm to
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we are shown that negan genuinely enjoys fricking with people and exerting his will in the crudest and most barbaric way possible.


Yes, but remember this is only after Rick killed a bunch of his guys. We may find out differently, but I think Negan is evil and smart. Why go start a war even if you can win when you can sit in the cut, collect taxes, and rule by fear with your minions doing all of the work. Remember in this world fighting isn't actually that hard, the hard part is the day-to-day living and feeding and supplying your people.

Also we see the Kingdom has at least some weapons. Speculating here but you go start a war with the kingdom and win but lose some of your guys and maybe kill half of their group. Now you need more of your men to police/rule the half of the Kingdom still left (who hates you and would maybe rather die than work for you), and you want them to now give you half of what they produce with only half the original population?

We know war is probably coming, but it makes no sense for Negan to initiate it. In fact I wouldn't even call it war, its going to be more like a colonial uprising/rebellion when it happens.
Posted by arktiger28
Member since Aug 2005
5401 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 4:43 pm to
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We all know Negan probably gon' die by the end of this season.


No way. The are not going to give such an excellent bad guy one season. They gave the governor more than one season and he isn't half as interesting as Negan.
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