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re: Official Joker SPOILERS/Discussion Thread
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:11 pm to TheeRealCarolina
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:11 pm to TheeRealCarolina
I was pleased at how they broke from the traditional Joker story arch. I was expecting him to jump off into a life of crime, and then develop a copycat following. And that's not what happens. Most of the development from Man to Joker happens basically in isolation. He's entirely disconnected from the social protest movement that's developing along a parallel tract. So he seems kind of astonished that he becomes the face of the movement. It's like the Reluctant Anti Hero.
I thought it ended rather abruptly. I think it could have used another 15 mins to flesh out the Joker in his new role as the centerpiece of the Gotham Antifa.
I thought it ended rather abruptly. I think it could have used another 15 mins to flesh out the Joker in his new role as the centerpiece of the Gotham Antifa.
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:17 pm to No Colors
Just got out. Really good and I really enjoyed the Wayne Easter eggs. It was a refreshing take on a character that’s been done millions of times
Posted on 10/4/19 at 8:58 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Whoever said there jaw was on the floor the whole movie nailed it. I constantly caught myself with my mouth hanging open. The descent into madness was absolutely astonishing and like you guys said, weighed very heavily on you the whole movie. It was a little slow, but gripping nonetheless.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 9:37 pm to drunkensailor89
That flashback scene about his mom...
DAMN...
DAMN...
Posted on 10/4/19 at 10:07 pm to Civildawg
Second viewing tonight. My entire body wasn’t clenched this time around. It went by a lot faster.
The T and W on Thomas Wayne on the envelope Penny addressed is the same T and W on the photo of her that “Thomas” signed. She definitely forged that.
Besides the Excalibur posters outside the theater (in BvS the movie the Waynes see is Excalibur instead of Zorro) you can see a poster for the movie Arthur. Nice touches.
The T and W on Thomas Wayne on the envelope Penny addressed is the same T and W on the photo of her that “Thomas” signed. She definitely forged that.
Besides the Excalibur posters outside the theater (in BvS the movie the Waynes see is Excalibur instead of Zorro) you can see a poster for the movie Arthur. Nice touches.
Posted on 10/5/19 at 12:03 am to Fewer Kilometers
Fiancé and I just got out. Really loved it. Still partial you Ledger’s portrayal, but this is either tied or a very close second. They’re 2 totally different types but I still love both.
I love how it’s left open at the end to begin the Pattinson films. They could or they couldn’t. I’d like to see them build off of this one.
I love how it’s left open at the end to begin the Pattinson films. They could or they couldn’t. I’d like to see them build off of this one.
Posted on 10/5/19 at 12:25 am to Fewer Kilometers
Joaquin Phoenix is the best actor in Hollywood and has been for a long time.
Posted on 10/5/19 at 12:42 am to TheeRealCarolina
Just got out. Wow. It makes you think.
Posted on 10/5/19 at 12:45 am to Jcorye1
I just fricking loved it. It actually made me feel bad for a homicidal maniac. Deniro didn't deserve to die, but I didn't feel bad when he was killed. Just like that Wayne employee who originally got away. It wasn't right that he was killed, but I didn't feel bad either.
Posted on 10/5/19 at 7:49 am to Jcorye1
Little Gary survived 
I was going to feel real bad if he got whacked.
I was going to feel real bad if he got whacked.
This post was edited on 10/5/19 at 7:50 am
Posted on 10/5/19 at 9:06 am to SonicAndBareKnuckles
That was a fantastic scene. I thought joker was going to kill him. That scene got a huge reaction in my showing.
Posted on 10/5/19 at 9:52 am to finchmeister08
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I love how it’s left open at the end to begin the Pattinson films. They could or they couldn’t. I’d like to see them build off of this one.
I hope they do. Phoenix's Joker doesn't really become fully realized until the last 20 minutes or so of the film, and he's mesmerizing every second he's on screen.
I just wish we had more of that. They've said this is a standalone film, but given that this film is going to pull close to $200 million worldwide in its opening weekend, I really hope that makes them reconsider.
They could set up something special here with Phoenix reprising the role in a more connected series of films.
Posted on 10/5/19 at 10:06 am to Cs
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They could set up something special here with Phoenix reprising the role in a more connected series of films.
They are going to have a hard time getting Phoenix to agree to come back, he has no desire to do franchise films
Posted on 10/5/19 at 10:20 am to The Godfather
That’s not true. He was going to be Dr. Strange but refused to sign a multi-picture deal.
Posted on 10/5/19 at 10:53 am to TotesMcGotes
You just confirmed what he said lol
Posted on 10/5/19 at 10:56 am to TheeRealCarolina
Exactly 
Joaquin is not signing up for sequels. It would be cool to see one more, but it ain't happening.
Joaquin is not signing up for sequels. It would be cool to see one more, but it ain't happening.Posted on 10/5/19 at 11:17 am to TotesMcGotes
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That’s not true. He was going to be Dr. Strange but refused to sign a multi-picture deal.
So you agree with me?
Posted on 10/5/19 at 12:22 pm to The Godfather
You two need to either get married or decide to become each other's arch-enemy. Pick one and move on. 
Posted on 10/5/19 at 12:26 pm to RLDSC FAN
quote:I don't remember seeing that little person in anything else, but he fricking nailed that scene. Everything from the initial shock, the sheer terror, and the realization that he needed Arthur's help to get out of there.
That was a fantastic scene. I thought joker was going to kill him. That scene got a huge reaction in my showing.
I tell you what, that horror/humor of realizing that he couldn't reach that door chain was a much needed comedic release for the audience.
Posted on 10/5/19 at 2:46 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Saw it today and thought it was great. I was expecting more Batman related Easter eggs though. One of the detectives interviewing him could have been Gordon, they could have had Jack Ryder as one of the reporters, maybe a Hugo Strange cameo at Arkham, just a few little touches like that would have been nice. This story didn't need to be about Joker or set in the DC universe. Other than Joker and the Wayne family I didn't notice any other Batman related lore.
Also thought it was kinda weird that Joker is about 35-40 years older than Bruce. I never thought of Joker as an old geezer going up against Batman. I also don't see this version of Joker as a criminal mastermind down the road. He's got the motive of being resentful of society but he doesn't seem like the type to plan out big crimes.
Also thought it was kinda weird that Joker is about 35-40 years older than Bruce. I never thought of Joker as an old geezer going up against Batman. I also don't see this version of Joker as a criminal mastermind down the road. He's got the motive of being resentful of society but he doesn't seem like the type to plan out big crimes.
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