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Nyong'o: "Very little time in the Odyssey book is spent in the perspective of a woman"

Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:28 am
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:28 am


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"When you read the Iliad and the Odyssey, very little time is spent from the perspective of the women. It's told from a very masculine side of things. The Odyssey takes a lot of time to really consider things from the female perspective. And so we see in Helen and Clytemnestra how this war has affected them both, and they respond to it very differently because of their experience."

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"Very little time in the Odyssey is spent in the perspective of a woman"

O illiterate founder of Greece, the goddess Athena (a female) drives the entire story from start to finish. Her fingerprints are on every page.

The entire point of the story is that mortals, in spite of all their pride and greed, are the playthings of the gods and therefore must be humble and behave honorably or they will be punished. The male god Poseidon is the antagonist, and the hero is Athena, who repeatedly leads the otherwise helpless characters to resolution and peace.

This knowledge could be yours, if you read the book
This post was edited on 7/6/26 at 10:32 am
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:33 am to
quote:

O illiterate founder of Greece, the goddess Athena (a female) drives the entire story from start to finish. Her fingerprints are on every page.

The entire point of the story is that mortals, in spite of all their pride and greed, are the playthings of the gods and therefore must be humble and behave honorably or they will be punished. The male god Poseidon is the antagonist, and the hero is Athena, who repeatedly leads the otherwise helpless characters to resolution and peace.


"How can I wake up and be offended today?"

What she said is not untrue. Very little time in the Odyssey is spent in the perspective of a woman. especially her character. Penelope is the only female character that gets a very notable amount of perspective.

Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:47 am to
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"How can I wake up and be offended today?"
That should be a sub-reddit for the M/TV Board.
Posted by JetsetNuggs
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:49 am to
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:51 am to
quote:

That should be a sub-reddit for the M/TV Board.

You'd prefer that people just lay back and never call out the absurdity? This would be a boring ahh board.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:58 am to
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You'd prefer that people just lay back and never call out the absurdity?

Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 11:03 am to
You're whining about whining

It's a discussion board. People discuss controversial things. Why is this bothersome for you? Ignore the threads and start your own waxing poetic about Citizen Kane. No one is stopping you.
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 11:25 am to
quote:

Lupita Nyong'o (Helen Of Troy): "How do you feel about the screen time given to women?"

I cannot fathom the level of self hatred you would possess as a man to cast this person as Helen and have her saying shite like this
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 11:25 am to
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That should be a sub-reddit for the M/TV Board.


You're posting in a thread that starts with someone making an absolutely laughable claim and comment.

That should be called out.


Now you might have a point if someone started a thread per whining without her making a comment, but unfortunately as usual, the left are the first to complain.



It's like you want them to whine, complain, change the meaning of things and no one to speak up to that?
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 11:26 am to
I can't imagine being excited about this movie.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 11:50 am to
At least her ravishing beauty makes up for her lack of brains...
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

You're posting in a thread that starts with someone making an absolutely laughable claim and comment.

That should be called out.


Except he's calling out something that isn't even untrue, he just wants to be mad. FWIW I'm just talking about the first clip, not the second, that one sounds pretty dumb. But he goes on a rant based on her saying there isn't a lot of women's perspective in the Odyssey. He comments on women's influence which is true but both of those things can be true. There simply isn't a lot of women's perspective in The Odyssey. But this guy wanted to make a big deal out of it so he did.

It's the same as when the Left gets their panties in a wad over literally everything. Everything is offensive. This is the same thing just the other side.

quote:

Now you might have a point if someone started a thread per whining without her making a comment, but unfortunately as usual, the left are the first to complain.




Remember last week when you said the same thing but the thread ended up going 5+ pages of people complaining over literally nothing?
Posted by faraway
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 12:21 pm to
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What she said is not untrue. Very little time in the Odyssey is spent in the perspective of a woman. especially her character.
she's welcome to write her own epic story if she doesn't like Homer's, I mean other than her epic stupidity.
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

"How can I wake up and be offended today?"

What she said is not untrue. Very little time in the Odyssey is spent in the perspective of a woman. especially her character. Penelope is the only female character that gets a very notable amount of perspective.



That Nubian princess is not going to frick you no matter how much you white knight for her.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

she's welcome to write her own epic story if she doesn't like Homer's,


Where did she say she doesn't like it?

We are on this board all the time giving our opinion on movies, shows, books, life, everything. Simply having an opinion on something doesn't mean you don't like it. She got asked if she could change one thing what would it be. Giving any answer to that was going to upset some snowflakes.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

That Nubian princess is not going to frick you no matter how much you white knight for her.


What a weird jump. I hate the casting and don't think she's that pretty. But I can put that aside and have a normal conversation without getting pissed over literally everything that comes out of her mouth.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 12:30 pm to
My god
These people have no idea what times used to be like

Women’s roles in those times were totally different

Things evolve over time

No different than slavery
It was terrible for those that endured it but continuing to blame the past doesn’t help you move out of that cycle
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

"Very little time in the Odyssey is spent in the perspective of a woman"


What a victim when everything isn't specifically tailored to your specific group.
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 12:42 pm to
Well she had never read the Odyssey before being cast even though she graduated from college so no she has no historical perspective or really any perspective at all except the feminist reimagining that this movie pulls a lot it's inspiration from.
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