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re: Man On The Moon/Andy Kaufman Discussion
Posted on 10/9/13 at 8:33 pm to Cajun Revolution
Posted on 10/9/13 at 8:33 pm to Cajun Revolution
I thought he was funny and enjoyed the movie. But in retrospect punking people without ever letting them in on it makes fools of people. And that's not funny.
Now Clifton was obvious, and was hilarious.
Now Clifton was obvious, and was hilarious.
This post was edited on 10/9/13 at 8:36 pm
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Posted on 10/9/13 at 8:40 pm to Thunder Tiger
He always insisted that he wasn't a comic and that he wasn't trying to be funny. I don't know what exactly he WAS trying to do/be, but he had his moments.
Posted on 10/9/13 at 8:46 pm to White Roach
I think that he was just trying to be an entertainer. He was very experimental, and tried to be artistic with it. I think that what it amounted to was pretty much avant garde comedy/entertainment. I think that the most impressive thing about him was his originality.
I wasn't around for any of this, so I'm just saying what I picked up in retrospect after his whole run was over.
I wasn't around for any of this, so I'm just saying what I picked up in retrospect after his whole run was over.
Posted on 10/9/13 at 8:50 pm to Peazey
It seems like he was just trying to entertain himself. He wasn't too worried about whether other people were amused or not.
Posted on 10/9/13 at 8:56 pm to Brosef Stalin
Maybe. I think that was part of it. I think that switching the roles around was part of the point, even if it wasn't a conscious decision. And who knows whether it was or not.
I think that maybe his whole public life was an act to this great ironic end. An entertainer whose main objective was simply to entertain himself. I think of this as a possibility because it seems like he made a point to never break character, to make it to where the audience could never tell if he broke character.
And maybe I'm just reading too far into it. Maybe that itself was the point.
I think that maybe his whole public life was an act to this great ironic end. An entertainer whose main objective was simply to entertain himself. I think of this as a possibility because it seems like he made a point to never break character, to make it to where the audience could never tell if he broke character.
And maybe I'm just reading too far into it. Maybe that itself was the point.
Posted on 10/9/13 at 10:01 pm to Brosef Stalin
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Jim Carrey's best acting job, great movie. I saw Tony Clifton last year. I don't know who's playing him but he was pretty good.
Bob Zmuda
Posted on 10/10/13 at 12:38 am to keakdasneak
There's a comedy album that came out this summer that's based off all these tapes Kaufman secretly recorded of him screwing with people. He would do these characters and just mess with folks. Think it includes stuff of him trolling his grandma.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 1:45 am to timbo
Posted on 10/10/13 at 6:47 am to IonaTiger
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when it originally aired on SNL (
I think that's the very 1st SNL.It's on Netflix.George Carlin is the host.The format is strange.Carlin does a monologue in the middle of it plus Kaufman.
Worth watching definitely.
Jerry Lawler beating the crap out of him on The Tonight Show was pretty funny.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 6:51 am to tidalmouse
fun fact
the first time I ever got a blowjob, it was in the theater during this movie
the first time I ever got a blowjob, it was in the theater during this movie
Posted on 10/10/13 at 8:00 am to Cajun Revolution
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3. This Mighty Mouse gag, I don't get was so funny about it. I guess maybe it's ridiculousness?
I remember seeing this as a kid (no idea when, but it originally aired before I was born), and me and my buddy couldn't stop cracking the frick up about it. We thought it was the funniest thing we had seen in a long time. I'm not really sure why, it just kept making us laugh over and over.
Also, this:
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TC is a character and in some ways is a way for Andy to live on indefinitely as this character is played by different people
I'm not sure I would like the TC character IRL, but I get it and understand the point of it.
And I agree that Kaufman would've had a field day with not only reality TV, but social media and all of that shite in today's world.
Troll is the best word to describe Andy Kaufman I think. Not everything he did was great, but he was the best at what he did...whatever that actually was. (if that makes sense)
As for the movie, I thought it was solid and Jim Carrey did a great job.
Also agree with this:
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It seems like he was just trying to entertain himself. He wasn't too worried about whether other people were amused or not.
This post was edited on 10/10/13 at 8:03 am
Posted on 10/10/13 at 8:28 am to Cajun Revolution
Andy Kaufman was brilliant but more importantly, he was fearless. He was challenging women to wrestling matches when the woman's movement was at the height of its momentum.
He never let the audience in on the joke and that takes balls.
He never let the audience in on the joke and that takes balls.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 10:10 am to wilfont
Andy Kaufman slaps Jerry Lawler on David Letterman
Kaufman Lawler Chapter 1/Andy wrestes woman
Chapter 2....The 4th One.
Kaufman Lawler Chapter 1/Andy wrestes woman
Chapter 2....The 4th One.
This post was edited on 10/10/13 at 10:19 am
Posted on 10/10/13 at 10:18 am to tidalmouse
there used to be a documentary on AK that would run all the time on Comedy Central back in the 90s. It talked extensively about the wrestling thing however it took the whole deal at face value as if Andy really thought he was a wrestler. It had old friends like Robin Williams even talking about it and how they would go to him worried telling him to stop.
To this day I have no idea which of his friends were in on the gag or if he kept all of them in the dark too.
To this day I have no idea which of his friends were in on the gag or if he kept all of them in the dark too.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 10:32 am to Dr RC
I'm pretty sure that Jerry Lawler never broke character either, even after Andy's death. Crazy level of commitment.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 10:36 am to Dr RC
quote:yep I saw it several times when I was a kid. It was what made me want to see Man on the Moon the theaters when it came out
there used to be a documentary on AK that would run all the time on Comedy Central back in the 90s
Posted on 10/10/13 at 11:24 am to Pilot Tiger
That and a blowjob.Good deal. 
Kaufman/Lawler Chapter 3 --- The Shove
Chapter 4 The Challenge
Kaufman/Lawler The Final
Kaufman/Lawler Chapter 3 --- The Shove
Chapter 4 The Challenge
Kaufman/Lawler The Final
This post was edited on 10/10/13 at 11:27 am
Posted on 10/10/13 at 11:46 am to Thunder Tiger
Taxi isn't on Netflix. Wish I was.
Posted on 10/10/13 at 3:33 pm to tidalmouse
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I think that's the very 1st SNL.It's on Netflix.George Carlin is the host.The format is strange.Carlin does a monologue in the middle of it plus Kaufman.
Much of the first season was like that. You are correct that the first show of "NBC's Saturday Night" was hosted by Carlin, and consisted of a wide range of performances, including Kaufman's Mighty Mouse bit.
The second show (Paul Simon) had 11 musical performances, and the only appearance by the NRFPTPs was in costume as the Bees at the very beginning - with Simon telling them their bit had been cut from the show.
The show did not really settle down to its sketch format until later, although there were scattered sketches throughout the first season.
They (Lorne Michaels)should have grabbed Kaufman before he inexplicably took his genius to Taxi and made it a legendary show. He must have tried, because he publicly lamented Kaufman locking himself into the sitcom format.
This post was edited on 10/10/13 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 10/10/13 at 5:38 pm to Pilot Tiger
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fun fact the first time I ever got a blowjob, it was in the theater during this movie
Remind me to avoid the theaters you frequent.
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