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re: Mad Men S7 E13 "The Milk & Honey Route"

Posted on 5/11/15 at 12:12 am to
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Az via La
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 12:12 am to
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by SwaggerCopter
frick Henry. I hope he's lost.





I agree
Posted by LeonPhelps
Member since May 2008
8185 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 12:23 am to
I loved this episode. No one talked about the title of the episode and how Weiner gave us a huge curveball. It is called The Milk and Honey Route. Clearly that was a reference to the Land of Milk and Honey, basically the paradise the freed Jews coming out of Israel spent 40 years looking for.

Don went to this idyllic small town in midwest America. He goes to that meeting, came clean to what he did in Korea to complete strangers, and was fully and completely accepted immediately. Clearly this was the land of milk and honey. He found the spot he had been looking for. Then those guys barge into his hotel room, accuse him of something he didn't do, and beat him in the face with a phonebook. I was shocked by that turn of events.

I cannot wait to see what happens in the finale.
Posted by SwaggerCopter
H TINE HOL IT DINE
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 12:26 am to
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It was when Pete was mad at Peggy and Don took up for Peggy.


Yeah. Nothing special.

quote:

Season 7 was Jordan on the Wizards.


Yup. Can't really disagree with this, although I did like the first half fine. It was this 7B that was just terrible.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 12:29 am to
Betty's letter :(
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 7:26 am to
Don innocently telling Betty in last week's episode to "knock'em dead" takes on morbid overtones it at first didn't have.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89046 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 8:34 am to
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Minus the 70 page interlude on vaginatighening, it's a pretty quick read.


Yeah, it's the one major flaw in the novel. After Sonny's death, the whole Lucy Mancini character herself seems kind of extraneous.
Posted by arktiger28
Member since Aug 2005
5403 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:09 am to
I'm kind of surprised about how I feel about Pete. I've hated him most of the time but saw glimpses of likability here and there, but I am actually glad it appears he gets the happy ending. I really bought that he had changed and realized what he had in his family.
Posted by Scoop
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Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:23 am to
I don't like Betty having lung cancer because it's a little politically correct. "Well, we have shown people smoking for years, so we have to give someone lung cancer to show there are consequences to smoking."
Posted by Scoop
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44583 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:26 am to
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Clearly that was a reference to the Land of Milk and Honey, basically the paradise the freed Jews coming out of Israel spent 40 years looking for.



The title is from a Depression era book that is a guide for getting along as a hobo.
Posted by SCTmo
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:31 am to
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The title is from a Depression era book that is a guide for getting along as a hobo.


For anyone who is interested in learning the ropes: The Milk and Honey Route.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
22768 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:45 am to
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I'm kind of surprised about how I feel about Pete. I've hated him most of the time but saw glimpses of likability here and there, but I am actually glad it appears he gets the happy ending. I really bought that he had changed and realized what he had in his family.


Its amazing when you consider the transformation Pete has made from Season 1 to Season 7. He went from a spoiled brat, to a Don-wannabe, to a hard working executive who realizes the value of his family. Pete has changed as much as Peggy has. As much as I miss the "grimey little pimp" from the first few seasons, it was cool to see his story wrapped up the way it was.

I have no clue how Don is going to end up. I was all for him going out West and just starting over. Now that Betty is going to die, it wouldn't be a great way to wrap up his story by leaving them to be raised by Henry.

Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39859 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:56 am to
So was the cop pulling him over a flash forward or a flashback? (or a dream?)
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13756 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:57 am to
How did the kid manage to make it look like Don did it?
Posted by LeonPhelps
Member since May 2008
8185 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:16 am to
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The title is from a Depression era book that is a guide for getting along as a hobo.


Well damn. I preferred my interpretation. Oh well.
Posted by Rollo
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
435 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:28 am to
Anyone else think that kid is going to crash and burn up in that car and he looks enough like Don that everyone will think it is him, so Don will be free to transform again without looking over his shoulder
Posted by DragginFly
Under the Mountain;By the Lake
Member since Oct 2014
3701 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:35 am to
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Its amazing when you consider the transformation Pete has made from Season 1 to Season 7. He went from a spoiled brat, to a Don-wannabe, to a hard working executive who realizes the value of his family. Pete has changed as much as Peggy has. As much as I miss the "grimey little pimp" from the first few seasons, it was cool to see his story wrapped up the way it was.


Ponder this possible ending: Duck has conspired with Hobart to trick Pete into quitting McCann and foregoing his bonus millions. The Wichita job doesn't exist, and when Pete finds out, he takes a header out the window.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:36 am to
Don ain't going back for the kids.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41075 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:51 am to
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How did the kid manage to make it look like Don did it?


He didn't really. They just instantly suspected him because he was an outsider.
Posted by cjared036
Houston, tx
Member since Dec 2009
9569 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:02 am to
Don goes back to NYC.
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11723 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:09 am to
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Ponder this possible ending: Duck has conspired with Hobart to trick Pete into quitting McCann and foregoing his bonus millions. The Wichita job doesn't exist, and when Pete finds out, he takes a header out the window.


If all that happens because Pete didn't think enough to show up at the restaurant and find out for himself, I will laugh my arse off.

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