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re: Luke believed in turning Vader after sensing good in him
Posted on 12/16/17 at 5:50 pm to tiggerthetooth
Posted on 12/16/17 at 5:50 pm to tiggerthetooth
Wait
Luke says in moment he knew he made the wrong decision and went to stop. But then at the time it was too late, Kylo woke up and thought he was getting murdered.
Luke says in moment he knew he made the wrong decision and went to stop. But then at the time it was too late, Kylo woke up and thought he was getting murdered.
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 7:04 pm to tiggerthetooth
Are you blaming Luke or Disney? Because Hamill didn't agree either, and he IS Luke
Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:51 pm to tiggerthetooth
Dad > Nephew
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 9:52 pm
Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:36 am to Frac the world
I wouldn't have went the direction they went with Luke but is it really that hard to buy that he changed his views in 30 years? shite happens along the way
Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:45 am to LSU Coyote
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Wait
Luke says in moment he knew he made the wrong decision and went to stop. But then at the time it was too late, Kylo woke up and thought he was getting murdered.
Mark Hamill himself thought it wasn't even the same Luke Skywalker.
Luke Skywalker would have never even thought about what he supposedly thought in TLJ.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:48 am to jmarto1
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I wouldn't have went the direction they went with Luke but is it really that hard to buy that he changed his views in 30 years? shite happens along the way
I mean yeah...it actually is considering the climax of the entire original trilogy was Luke basically saving Vader's "soul" from the dark side. Even though Vader committed numerous evil acts and killed scores of people and chased him all over the galaxy Luke purposely pursues saving Vader and puts his own life on the line to save Anakin Skywalker...now? He just forgot the most pivotal moment in his entire life?
Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:48 am to RobbBobb
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Are you blaming Luke or Disney? Because Hamill didn't agree either, and he IS Luke
Oh Disney, by miles. Not even close.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 12:50 am to Scoop
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The nit picking here today is incredible.
You think thats nitpicky?
Why have Luke Skywalker at all included in the trilogy if you're not going to build off his story line? Why even use the Star Wars name?
Posted on 12/17/17 at 1:07 am to tiggerthetooth
Kylo turned out to be just a pawn as was Vader in the end. It is the one reason I can slightly give a pass to them for not showing Kylo completing his training under Snoke.
As soon as Snoke became aware of Rey, he had no use for Kylo anymore other than a pawn to get Rey to him (Snoke) to turn her. Same thing happened in the OT. The Emperor had no use for Vader other than being a pawn to bring Luke to him (Emperor) once he realized Luke was more powerful than Vader.
As soon as Snoke became aware of Rey, he had no use for Kylo anymore other than a pawn to get Rey to him (Snoke) to turn her. Same thing happened in the OT. The Emperor had no use for Vader other than being a pawn to bring Luke to him (Emperor) once he realized Luke was more powerful than Vader.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 1:16 am to DannyB
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Kylo turned out to be just a pawn as was Vader in the end. It is the one reason I can slightly give a pass to them for not showing Kylo completing his training under Snoke.
How was Kylo a pawn? He's literally the main villain now.
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As soon as Snoke became aware of Rey, he had no use for Kylo anymore other than a pawn to get Rey to him (Snoke) to turn her.
Then why did Snoke specifically ask Kylo Ren to kill her?
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Same thing happened in the OT. The Emperor had no use for Vader other than being a pawn to bring Luke to him (Emperor) once he realized Luke was more powerful than Vader.
When did the emperor ever indicate this? This was never hinted at in the OT.
Its only speculated the Emperor wanted one of 2 outcomes when he pitted Vader against Luke Skywalker:
A) Luke wins, becomes his new apprentice
B) Vader wins and Luke dies thus killing a Jedi and strengthening the position of the dark side of the force
Posted on 12/17/17 at 1:19 am to tiggerthetooth
Rey needed a teacher and Luke's mistake was the catalyst for Kylie turning completely to the dark side.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 1:24 am to dawgfan24348
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Rey needed a teacher and Luke's mistake was the catalyst for Kylie turning completely to the dark side.
But Rey claims she senses light in Kylo Ren (same as Luke sensed good in Vader).
Posted on 12/17/17 at 2:27 am to tiggerthetooth
Didn't Luke say Rey was made to balance Ben? I hate this line of logic. Luke already could so the force shouldn't have "awoken" in her with the same power as Ben.
Basically Ben gets trained by Luke and Snoke but can't beat Rey because "balance".
Basically Ben gets trained by Luke and Snoke but can't beat Rey because "balance".
Posted on 12/17/17 at 10:23 am to tiggerthetooth
Luke had a momentary lapse in judgement, he even says that in the film. It's why he shut himself off from the galaxy. His one little mistake was what created Kylo
Posted on 12/17/17 at 10:42 am to Frac the world
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He should’ve gone out in a spectacular duel with Snoke. Save Kylo killing Snoke for Ep IX.
I knew Luke was gonna die like Kenobi. Gave himself up to stall for the benefit of the rebellion.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 10:43 am to tiggerthetooth
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When did the emperor ever indicate this? This was never hinted at in the OT.
If you didn't realize the emperor's plan for Luke in Return of the Jedi then you just weren't paying attention. What did you think it meant when he told Luke "Give in to your fellings, slay your father, and take his place by my side."
Posted on 12/17/17 at 10:49 am to Merck
Yea it was pretty much explicitly stated. Luke had three routes as far as the Emperor saw: be killed by Vader, kill Vader and join him, be killed by the Emperor for not turning. That is the nature of a with Master/Apprentice relationship. The Apprentice will always try and get strong enough to kill the Master and the Master will always be looking for a stronger or at least younger Apprentice.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 10:55 am to tiggerthetooth
Kylo's a pawn in that every move he made, not including killing Snoke, was manipulated by Snoke himself. For example, Snoke connecting their minds because he knew kylo was too weak to resist Rey's plea to turn. It got them both into the throne room willingly.
As for the complete obliviousness to both Snoke and Palapatines identical motivations in slaying their apprentices, I dont know what to tell you. Maybe stick to Marvel?
As for the complete obliviousness to both Snoke and Palapatines identical motivations in slaying their apprentices, I dont know what to tell you. Maybe stick to Marvel?
Posted on 12/17/17 at 2:57 pm to tiggerthetooth
PTSD affects Jedi too bro
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