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Luke believed in turning Vader after sensing good in him
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:05 pm
Yet turns around and does the exact opposite for Ben Solo/Kylo Ren?
Why does Luke Skywalker go through all of that shite in the original trilogies and basically learns nothing?
Why does Luke Skywalker go through all of that shite in the original trilogies and basically learns nothing?
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:06 pm to tiggerthetooth
Or maybe he did learn from it and that’s how he knows the Kylo is too far gone.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:08 pm to Indfanfromcol
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Or maybe he did learn from it and that’s how he knows the Kylo is too far gone.
Based on what? Vader killed almost every Jedi out there and killed tons of people. Yet we're supposed to believe that Luke now thinks Ben Solo is completely gone?
Dumb.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:09 pm to tiggerthetooth
Luke would know and he felt Ben was darker than Vader
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:09 pm to tiggerthetooth
Bad dreams>>>>>Genocide
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:11 pm to tiggerthetooth
Yea I agree with Mark Hamill, they fundamentally changed the character of Luke.
The Luke we know and love would’ve hopped on the Falcon and gone to help his sister just like he left Dagobah in Empire. He should’ve gone out in a spectacular duel with Snoke. Save Kylo killing Snoke for Ep IX.
The Luke we know and love would’ve hopped on the Falcon and gone to help his sister just like he left Dagobah in Empire. He should’ve gone out in a spectacular duel with Snoke. Save Kylo killing Snoke for Ep IX.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:11 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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Luke would know and he felt Ben was darker than Vader
Vader was evil personified.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:12 pm to tiggerthetooth
He did that because Palpatine tricked him into thinking he can save Padme. Yeah I’m sure there was anger there but he essentially did it to save her. Kylo is killing because he wants to be bad.
Just my two cents, but if anyone would be able to tell if someone was to far gone or not, it’d be Luke.
Just my two cents, but if anyone would be able to tell if someone was to far gone or not, it’d be Luke.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:13 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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Luke would know and he felt Ben was darker than Vader
You have to say that to justify the logic of the frick up. They screwed it up.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:14 pm to tiggerthetooth
quote:or, and stay with me, it's fricking true
You have to say that to justify the logic of the frick up. They screwed it up.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:15 pm to Indfanfromcol
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He did that because Palpatine tricked him into thinking he can save Padme.
And Kylo Ren wasn't tricked? The dark side just spontaneously grows in people? Zero explanations, just believe all the shite thrown at us?
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:17 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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or, and stay with me, it's fricking true
How would it be true? No one has ever said this anywhere, not a single person in the movie or associated with the making of the movie has mentioned it.
You're 100% making it up and you have to make this excuse up or else that part of the movie is plain illogical.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:18 pm to tiggerthetooth
Because something isn't said explicitly doesn't mean it's not true. He was dark enough for Luke to try and murder a child. And he knew how dark Vader was. Do the math homie
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:20 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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Because something isn't said explicitly doesn't mean it's true. He was dark enough for Luke to try and murder a child.
Except he doesn't even really try to murder him. And Luke even admits it was a mistake to even think about doing it
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:22 pm to MF Doom
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Except he doesn't even really try to murder him. And Luke even admits it was a mistake to even think about doing it
+1
People obviously have to jump through hoops to make sense of the story.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:25 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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Because something isn't said explicitly doesn't mean it's not true.
You serious? You can assume about a thousand different things based on this logic, which means the writing and story sucked. It just sucked. Rian Johnson doesn't really understand Star Wars IMO. He just doesn't.
I don't even mind the shoehorned diversity cast, thats all fine, just at least make it like a Star Wars film.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:25 pm to Byron Bojangles III
Delete
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 12/16/17 at 4:12 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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or, and stay with me, it's fricking true
That didn’t stop Rey from believing she could turn Kylo Ren.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 5:37 pm to tiggerthetooth
Turning isn't even the issue. Ben is just a bad person, force or no force.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 5:45 pm to tiggerthetooth
The nit picking here today is incredible.
Maybe Luke considered the fact that letting Kylo go dark might result in the loss of billions or trillions of lives (it did) before any opportunity for a light turn and he did the math and considered ending it right then but couldn’t go through with it.
You people today are f’ing nuts.
Maybe Luke considered the fact that letting Kylo go dark might result in the loss of billions or trillions of lives (it did) before any opportunity for a light turn and he did the math and considered ending it right then but couldn’t go through with it.
You people today are f’ing nuts.
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