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Posted on 5/24/10 at 1:07 pm to TigerMyth36
Ok - Quick question -
what is this? I keep reading people mention this, but I have no idea what anyone is talking about.
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Was the 100% hatred by most people of mitichlorians, holier than thou?
what is this? I keep reading people mention this, but I have no idea what anyone is talking about.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 1:08 pm to Freauxzen
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They've never taken offense to the term either. If they do, then we won't call them that.
It doesn't have to be offensive to come across as being a prick though. That's all I was alluding to.
And this is all within the course of this particular thread and this particular topic. Obviously I don't hold you or SFP in contempt across the board. Just in this thread, and just on occasion for you (SFP, not so much). I like debate. Hell, LOVE it actually. But repetitive bullshite gets old. And it doesn't even really matter much anymore, now that I'm just about caught up on the thread...it's not like I have to go back and re-read it.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 1:09 pm to Joe
In the star wars prequels they gave a biological reason for the force.
Midi-chlorians. Small organisms that inhabit a living being and give them force power.
Midi-chlorians. Small organisms that inhabit a living being and give them force power.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 1:09 pm to Joe
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what is this? I keep reading people mention this, but I have no idea what anyone is talking about.
Mitichlorians were the scientific explanation for the "Force" giving in Star Wars: The Phantom Menace. Essentially, Lucas explained away the "magic" part of the Star Wars saga as some shite you find in someone's blood.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 1:10 pm to lsumatt
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1. Didn't understand what happened with Ben "on Island". He had this huge redemption mid-season, and then seems to go back with Locke. he converts back with Hurley but it isn't clear when or where. Was it when Locke told him he was sinking the Island? When sawyer stole his gun? I expected Ben to screw things up until the end and his state-of mind was never clear. Although I did like his acceptance as a "#2"
His earlier redemption never faltered. He killed Whitmore but was never really with MIB. That is why he had the walkie talkie turned on and had the other one with the good guys. He was working against MIB.
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3. What is the purpose of Desmond staying alive on Island? It would have been cleaner to have him die off too.
He didn't stay on the island. Ben and Hurley had a conversation implying that they were about to get him off of the island. I liked that he lived and got to live out his life with his family. Every great love story in lost was tragically ended early with death so I am glad that his didn't.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 1:10 pm to TigerMyth36
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I am getting sick of the Jack's perspective argument.
Please explain to me again why it is Jack's perspective when Hugo and Ben had a chat outside the chapel Alone.
Please explain how it was all Jack's perspective that most of the sideways stuff during the whole season was from the perspective of the castaway dujour.
I don't see how the final scene was just from one persons perspective. Christian said they ALL built the construct. Not just Jack.
Please explain.
And that isn't sarcasm, I want a real answer.
Perspective doesn't mean what he actually sees or hears. It means that the characters in the finale scene are in the position in which they existed in Jack's life, which spans from the opening credits to final credits of the series. It doesn't mean that these characters can't have conversations or interactions that don't pertain to Jack, or that they can't have their on motivations or desires apart from Jack's. It's just that they exist, in this purgatory, as Jack remembers them.
This why Sayid and Shannon are together instead of Sayid and Nadia.
It's why Aaron is present as an infant and not in some other form from his life.
It's why Sun and Jin's child isn't present.
It's why Kate, Sawyer, and all the others that outlived Jack appear in the exact same manner in which he last saw them.
We know that Jack is basically the main character on the show and the leader of the group. His story and life also span the exact timeline of the show. He is the first scene and the last scene. It only makes sense that we would view this final scene through his life.
Could this be wrong? Sure.
But this answer provides adequate reasons as to why Sayid is not with Nadia, Aaron is an infant, there is no baby Kwon, etc., etc.
This post was edited on 5/24/10 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 5/24/10 at 1:12 pm to CocomoLSU
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This is exactly what I am talking about...you seem to be approaching Lost from a writer's standpoint, and nitpicking it to death about how they could have made the story better.
Not necessarily "better," but less manipulative.
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I don't think anybody in here will say that the story couldn't have been better. But the bottom line is that we have no control over that, and thus, can only see what the Lost people give us. It again harks back to the taking it personally approach...you seem to be almost offended that the writers of Lost would DARE write some of the episodes they wrote.
That is the whole problem.
And I know I'm being repetitive, because people seemingly don't get it:
What they give us is manipulation. It's not that it's bad writing, it's that it's often cheap. Why do I have to be repetitive, because other people refuse to see the contrived moments, especially with something like.....guess what? The wreckage.
Not to be repetitive, you have already admitted that it was a cheap move, meant to mess with the fans and you like that. Our discussion would have ended there without the, what I would consider, negative critique of what I was saying. The other people in this thread? They never got that. Hence the repetition.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 1:13 pm to TigerMyth36
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It is not like he or I are just stamping our foot and saying the same thing over and over.
I'm fine with myth and freauxzen in this thread, sfp on the other hand...
Posted on 5/24/10 at 1:14 pm to CocomoLSU
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Don't you fricking dare do that.
No no, you're implying again. I don't mean anything negative by that.
All I mean, is that by a show that has shown that anything is possible, then Myth and I aren't so off-based to say that, in the end: Anything is possible. Including that interpretation.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 1:14 pm to Antonio Moss
i think jack's perspective leaves less BS hanging around than it being everyone's purgatory
i see both sides, but it makes more sense with it just being jack (baby aaron, shannon with sayid, etc)
i mean hell, if it isn't jack's perspective, then why aren't all the people who were there old (body at death)?
i see both sides, but it makes more sense with it just being jack (baby aaron, shannon with sayid, etc)
i mean hell, if it isn't jack's perspective, then why aren't all the people who were there old (body at death)?
Posted on 5/24/10 at 1:16 pm to Antonio Moss
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It means that the characters in the finale scene are in the position in which they existed in Jack's life,
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It's why Aaron is present as an infant and not in some other form from his life.
Aaron wouldn't be an infant, he would be a 3 year old child as that is what he was when Jack went back to the island.
However, Aaron was an infant when he was with Claire and that is why he was an infant in the purgatory. It was everyone's perspective.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 1:17 pm to Freauxzen
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WTF HAPPENED TO MILES!?!?!
yeah, I didn't see him. But Miles was supposed to be there, and was trying to get Sawyer to go as well in a prior episode, because it was his dad's benefit concert (I think that is what he said).
Maybe we just didn't see him.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 1:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:they look like they did in their memories (the time in which they knew each other)
why aren't all the people who were there old (body at death)?
Posted on 5/24/10 at 1:17 pm to Joe
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Was the 100% hatred by most people of mitichlorians, holier than thou?
what is this? I keep reading people mention this, but I have no idea what anyone is talking about.
Intergalactic STD that gives you the force.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 1:17 pm to Decatur
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Instead they chose an iconic piece of scenery/set, and let everyone take a breath and reflect.
It's really that simple. I don't know why we are still discussing it.
I agree. Also, at the beginning of Jimmy Kimmel's show they showed the audience watching the finale and it ended with the black screen with LOST on it. They didn't show the wreckage or the credits, which I think adds credence to the argument above that it was just backdrop for the credits.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 1:18 pm to CocomoLSU
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And this is all within the course of this particular thread and this particular topic. Obviously I don't hold you or SFP in contempt across the board. Just in this thread, and just on occasion for you (SFP, not so much). I like debate. Hell, LOVE it actually. But repetitive bullshite gets old. And it doesn't even really matter much anymore, now that I'm just about caught up on the thread...it's not like I have to go back and re-read it.
Point taken.
I think in the end, I actually like the show, a lot more than I thought I did, and that effected how much I would harp on one point, because without it, I would have liked it that much more.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 1:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i mean hell, if it isn't jack's perspective, then why aren't all the people who were there old (body at death)?
Because the connection between them was their time at the island.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 1:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i mean hell, if it isn't jack's perspective, then why aren't all the people who were there old (body at death)?
I think it could be Jack's perspective, but I think they all go back to the "most important time of their life" and that was it for all of them. Also, they were all coming to their realization and "letting go", so it was important for all of them. And Ben made a choice to stay as well.
Posted on 5/24/10 at 1:19 pm to PsychTiger
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