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re: LOST "The End" S6.E17&18

Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:51 pm to
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:51 pm to
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I don't know. Sayid has been driven by pretty much one thing the entire length of the show...Nadia. His love for her, his desire to be back with her, etc.


And that would be an obsession. Like Jack's obsession to fix everything. Hurley's obsession with the numbers. Ben's obsession with the island. Sawyers's obsession with Anthony Cooper. Locke's obsession with being special.
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29897 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:51 pm to
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Jack's perspective.


It wasn't just Jack's perspective.

Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49397 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:52 pm to
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It wasn't just Jack's perspective.


Just about every piece of evidence in the final scene suggest that it was.

Am I 100% sure this is right? No. But almost every shred of evidence points to this being the case.
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29897 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:53 pm to
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Didn't really like what they did with Lapidus. If they wanted him to stay alive, just keep him alive. Him being found was a little unbelievable.


I think his being alive was one of the least surprising scenes in the finale. We never saw him "die". I think most people thought he would be back.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156521 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:56 pm to
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to be fair to Freaux..i dont remember him doing this a single time, it was done by others

Searching his posts is where I saw the term "Losties."
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
41523 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:56 pm to
I am getting sick of the Jack's perspective argument.

Please explain to me again why it is Jack's perspective when Hugo and Ben had a chat outside the chapel Alone.

Please explain how it was all Jack's perspective that most of the sideways stuff during the whole season was from the perspective of the castaway dujour.

I don't see how the final scene was just from one persons perspective. Christian said they ALL built the construct. Not just Jack.

Please explain.

And that isn't sarcasm, I want a real answer.
Posted by manwich
You've wanted my
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:57 pm to
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Sayid has been driven by pretty much one thing the entire length of the show...Nadia.
i think he was more driven by his desire to make up for all the horrible things he had done in the past. that is where his original desire for Nadia came from. he saw her and her cause as a way to make up for his past actions. she showed him that he was still a good person but when she was burned/killed, the feelings of his past were still haunting him.

they mentioned this multiple times including last night
This post was edited on 5/24/10 at 12:58 pm
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108303 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:57 pm to
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Meanwhile, the other group on here continues to make every single thing they state, definitive fact as if written on clay tablets by the fiery bush.


And they wonder why FReaux, Myth, and others continue to rebut. They refuse to acknowledge that anything but their own definitive view of the ending is possible within the context of what the creators actually showed and told us.


My stance is there is not definitive answer and it was left ambiguous on purpose to stir debate and continue discussion about the show. There are mulitple plausible explanations and that is what they and I have been saying but the sheep can't accept it. it was clear as mud to them.
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29897 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:57 pm to
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I am getting sick of the Jack's perspective argument.

Please explain to me again why it is Jack's perspective when Hugo and Ben had a chat outside the chapel Alone.

Please explain how it was all Jack's perspective that most of the sideways stuff during the whole season was from the perspective of the castaway dujour.

I don't see how the final scene was just from one persons perspective. Christian said they ALL built the construct. Not just Jack.


1,000,000% THIS

Edit to add: I hadn't even thought about the fact that Hurley and Ben talked about their turn as Island protector that happened after Jack died.
This post was edited on 5/24/10 at 1:02 pm
Posted by The Godfather
Surrounded by Assholes
Member since Mar 2005
42610 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:58 pm to
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Searching his posts is where I saw the term "Losties."


I stand corrected then.
Posted by Joe
North Jersey
Member since Jan 2005
6342 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:58 pm to
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How are we holier than thou


Weren't you the same guy saying "Listen how stupid you all sound talking about islands and magic rocks and super magic lights?"

Thats pretty damn "holier than thou" and really the only part where you really pissed me off.
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29897 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:58 pm to
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Just about every piece of evidence in the final scene suggest that it was.

Am I 100% sure this is right? No. But almost every shred of evidence points to this being the case.


I don't see one shred of evidence to support this.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
41523 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 12:59 pm to
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And that would be an obsession. Like Jack's obsession to fix everything. Hurley's obsession with the numbers. Ben's obsession with the island. Sawyers's obsession with Anthony Cooper. Locke's obsession with being special.



Yeah, you left off Claire's obssession Aaron. And I kind of remember her being able to keep him.

Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
21022 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 1:00 pm to
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I think his being alive was one of the least surprising scenes in the finale. We never saw him "die". I think most people thought he would be back.


Yeah as long as that plane was still intact his character wasn't going anywhere.
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29897 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 1:00 pm to
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Yeah as long as that plane was still intact his character wasn't going anywhere.


Especially since he was supposed to be the pilot but overslept.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
41523 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 1:01 pm to
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Searching his posts is where I saw the term "Losties."


Na, I think you mean me.

Lostiacs.

And I don't mean that term for all on here just the real over the top moonbats that use hyperbole to the 100th power about this show every week.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109183 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 1:03 pm to
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Didn't Sayid learn to say goodbye to Nadia during the side-purgatory story? He accepted that she was married to someone else/gone. He let go of her and moved on to Shannon.


Which leaves him only 70 more to get through.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
41523 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 1:04 pm to
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Weren't you the same guy saying "Listen how stupid you all sound talking about islands and magic rocks and super magic lights?"


How is it holier than though to say that the whole entire life and afterlife hinged on a rock in a hole.

Stating I think something was silly doesn't make me holier than though.

Was the 100% hatred by most people of mitichlorians, holier than thou?

No, the idea was weak. I just think the idea of a rock in a hole protecting all life and afterlife was a touch silly.

Don't see that as holier than thou.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38656 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 1:05 pm to
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CocomoLSU


Ok, I give you that some of it is repetitive. But only some.

Let's see I critique the writing, I answer questions that were asked of me, I talk about Six Feet Under, etc. Repetitive maybe, but the argument was attack and defense. People say: "Why did you hate?" a thousand times, I will answer.

quote:

Note here that you still have yet to give what that evidence is...


I think the evidence, that many don't realize, is the entire show. But that's another debate.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38656 posts
Posted on 5/24/10 at 1:06 pm to
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Na, I think you mean me.

Lostiacs.

And I don't mean that term for all on here just the real over the top moonbats that use hyperbole to the 100th power about this show every week.


This.

They've never taken offense to the term either. If they do, then we won't call them that.
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