- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Let's overanalyze the sh!t out of The Wizard of Oz (long, ridiculous question/observation)
Posted on 12/3/20 at 4:14 pm to TigerintheNO
Posted on 12/3/20 at 4:14 pm to TigerintheNO
Hmmmph, didn't know it was about all the stuff you posted earlier. I knew the movie was based on the book.
1
Posted on 12/3/20 at 4:24 pm to CocomoLSU
Thanks for completely ruining my childhood.
Posted on 12/3/20 at 4:28 pm to CocomoLSU
quote:
Of all the supposed “good” characters in movie history, I feel like Glinda may actually be one of the worst people to ever exist in that space. She’s a complete and total psycho.
She's played by one of my personal favorite actresses, so she gets a pass for being a sociopath from me.
BTW, she was 50 when she was in Oz.
Posted on 12/3/20 at 4:33 pm to CocomoLSU
As already observed by Family Guy, Dorthy tells the Scarecrow she'll miss him most of all... IN FRONT OF EVERYONE ELSE.
I mean Jesus Christ is that terrible manners.
I mean Jesus Christ is that terrible manners.
Posted on 12/3/20 at 6:05 pm to CocomoLSU
I just hate how they spelled her name Glinda instead of Glenda, and I have no real reason why.
Posted on 12/3/20 at 7:09 pm to TigerintheNO
This was one an interpretation of the book. Certainly an interesting way at looking at it,but never confirmed that is what the book is about.
Also, Mckinley was assassinated after the book was written so that storyline doesn’t play.
It was a teacher, Henry Littlefield, who made the claim this was what the book was about not the author himself.
Also, Mckinley was assassinated after the book was written so that storyline doesn’t play.
It was a teacher, Henry Littlefield, who made the claim this was what the book was about not the author himself.
This post was edited on 12/4/20 at 7:56 am
Posted on 12/3/20 at 7:13 pm to DemonKA3268
the author was a very opinioned political person, didn't care much for the Indians. He published this in a South Dakota newspaper.
quote:
"The Whites, by law of conquest, by justice of civilization, are masters of the American continent, and the best safety of the frontier settlements will be secured by the total annihilation of the few remaining Indians.
Why not annihilation? Their glory has fled, their spirit broken, their manhood effaced; better that they die than live the miserable wretches that they are."
Posted on 12/3/20 at 8:14 pm to PEEPO
quote:Apparently this is a remnant of a romantic subplot that was otherwise cut from the film
As already observed by Family Guy, Dorthy tells the Scarecrow she'll miss him most of all... IN FRONT OF EVERYONE ELSE.
I mean Jesus Christ is that terrible manners.
Posted on 12/3/20 at 8:22 pm to Kafka
Isn’t she related to the three dudes in the film? Or am I misremembering? So a romantic subplot would have seemed kinda weird, no?
Posted on 12/3/20 at 10:17 pm to CocomoLSU
I googled some theories on the meaning in the Wizard of Oz, this is right up Cocomo’s alley 
LINK
quote:
In 1993, W. Geoffrey Seeley recast the story as an exercise in treachery, suggesting the supposed "Good Witch Glinda" used an innocent, ignorant patsy (Dorothy) to overthrow both her own sister witch (Witch of the West) and the Wizard of Oz, leaving herself as undisputed master of all four corners of Oz: North, East, West and South (and presumably the Emerald City). She even showed her truest "Machiavellian brilliance" by allowing the story to be entitled after the weakest of her three opponents. Glinda could have told Dorothy that the "silver slippers would easily do the job [of returning Dorothy to her beloved home] but decided that a destabilizing force such as Dorothy might be just the thing to shake up her other rival [The Wizard of Oz].
LINK
This post was edited on 12/3/20 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 12/4/20 at 4:16 am to CocomoLSU
We all know it was a dream, but most don’t know it was a dream induced by the drink the traveling snake oil carpetbagger gave her. The dream was what she was feeling as she laid there for who knows how long, and him doing things we don’t need to know.
The tin man represented the tin cup she drank from, and if you look at the three initials of Dorothy, scarecrow, and the lion, they spell out LSD.
The part of the movie with the poppyseeds and then falling asleep was actually Dorothy‘s aunt giving her a sedative to bring her down off her crazy high, which of course did not work because later on she sees horses of different colors and all kind of crazy shite.
The tin man represented the tin cup she drank from, and if you look at the three initials of Dorothy, scarecrow, and the lion, they spell out LSD.
The part of the movie with the poppyseeds and then falling asleep was actually Dorothy‘s aunt giving her a sedative to bring her down off her crazy high, which of course did not work because later on she sees horses of different colors and all kind of crazy shite.
Posted on 12/4/20 at 5:59 am to theantiquetiger
Posted on 12/4/20 at 7:01 am to CocomoLSU
quote:
Isn’t she related to the three dudes in the film? Or am I misremembering? So a romantic subplot would have seemed kinda weird, no?
I think they were farmhands, not relatives... but it's been a while.
Posted on 12/4/20 at 7:43 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:
In 1993, W. Geoffrey Seeley recast the story as an exercise in treachery, suggesting the supposed "Good Witch Glinda" used an innocent, ignorant patsy (Dorothy) to overthrow both her own sister witch (Witch of the West) and the Wizard of Oz, leaving herself as undisputed master of all four corners of Oz: North, East, West and South (and presumably the Emerald City). She even showed her truest "Machiavellian brilliance" by allowing the story to be entitled after the weakest of her three opponents. Glinda could have told Dorothy that the "silver slippers would easily do the job [of returning Dorothy to her beloved home] but decided that a destabilizing force such as Dorothy might be just the thing to shake up her other rival [The Wizard of Oz].
Makes sense. But the Witches aren't all related though, right? That's saying Glinda and the WWotW are sisters, correct?
Maybe in the book, but not in the movie from what I remember.
Posted on 12/4/20 at 7:55 am to TigerintheNO
Learn something new everyday.
Posted on 12/4/20 at 9:15 am to CocomoLSU
quote:
ut the Witches aren't all related though, right? That's saying Glinda and the WWotW are sisters, correct?
i don't take it that way, just using "sister" the way we might use "bro" or fellow witch
Posted on 12/4/20 at 9:22 am to CocomoLSU
Pretty sure that if you overanalyze almost any movie, it will expose some seriously fricked up shite.
Limits on time means cutting corners in terms of explanation. We fill in the gaps ourselves (oh, this person must be evil because X) because movies don't have the time to do a deep dive into the motivations of the characters like long running TV shows, books, and even comics can do given enough time. Even the MCU, for as many movies as it has had, can only say that it's three most seen characters (Captain America, Iron Man and Thor) still only have a few hours (at most) of screen time and dialog, and considering how much of it is action oriented you can presume 1/3 to 1/2 of it is done either fighting or telling jokes.
So yeah, you break down any movie enough you're going to start to realize all the holes, flaws and things that might be considered downright nightmarish when you apply real world realities to them.
Limits on time means cutting corners in terms of explanation. We fill in the gaps ourselves (oh, this person must be evil because X) because movies don't have the time to do a deep dive into the motivations of the characters like long running TV shows, books, and even comics can do given enough time. Even the MCU, for as many movies as it has had, can only say that it's three most seen characters (Captain America, Iron Man and Thor) still only have a few hours (at most) of screen time and dialog, and considering how much of it is action oriented you can presume 1/3 to 1/2 of it is done either fighting or telling jokes.
So yeah, you break down any movie enough you're going to start to realize all the holes, flaws and things that might be considered downright nightmarish when you apply real world realities to them.
Posted on 12/4/20 at 9:23 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:
i don't take it that way, just using "sister" the way we might use "bro" or fellow witch
I think they were all in the same sorority at witch college
Posted on 12/4/20 at 9:23 am to theantiquetiger
quote:
The tin man represented the tin cup she drank from, and if you look at the three initials of Dorothy, scarecrow, and the lion, they spell out LSD.
now this just sounds like trying to create your meaning
The book was released in 1900 LSD wasn't invented until the late 30's around the time the movie was made but i don't think they even knew the psychedelic effects until years later
Posted on 12/4/20 at 9:28 am to skrayper
quote:
i don't take it that way, just using "sister" the way we might use "bro" or fellow witch
Maybe so. Although the WWotW certainly makes it seem like the WWotE was literally her sister.
Of course, it could just be Glinda throwing her psychotic bullshite over everything yet again. And I feel like in the movie the Wickeds are actual sisters. I haven't seen the full movie in forever, but do we ever hear anything about the South Witch? Is she ever mentioned?
Page 2 of 3
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News