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re: Let’s Discuss Interstellar

Posted on 5/21/20 at 10:45 am to
Posted by DestrehanTiger
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Posted on 5/21/20 at 10:45 am to
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watching Coop start crying as he watches his kids grow up on the videos they transmit, that was so tough... It hit me on this rewatch that his emotion comes from him sacrificing his time in space and missing his kids growing up and being there with them.


I don't think I ever cried more during a movie than that scene, and that was before I had kids. If I re-watched it now after having 2 children, I'd probably get dehydrated.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 5/21/20 at 11:22 am to
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The docking scene in IMAX is an all timer



Not sure how many times I've rewatched this movie, but the hair on my arms stands on end every time I watch this scene. The music is perfect and everything about the scene is unbelievable.

I'll have to disagree with yall on Dr Mann. I've never hated a character more than Dr Mann. I thought Damon played it perfectly and like another poster said, Damon was WAY better here than he was in The Martian.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 5/21/20 at 11:32 am to
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That said, Interstellar is a really cool movie. I probably wouldn't even have changed the stuff I find inaccurate. Despite the science not really working in terms of being able to survive


You have to keep in mind that the studio is looking to turn a profit here. Nolan talked about having to reign in kip thorne because what he was pushing for would lose the audience. It's just too complicated for the GA.
Posted by Skeezer
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Posted on 5/21/20 at 11:48 am to
I loved it just as much the first time as the 10th time.
Posted by AMS
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Posted on 5/21/20 at 11:57 am to
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Here’s the problem with Damon’s casting: he was supposed to be the best of them and so inspiring that he convinced 12 other people to go on a suicide mission with him. There’s no way in hell I can buy that Matt Damon convinced 12 people to go on a suicide mission with him, but I could buy Walter White convincing 12 people to go on a suicide mission with him. If he just happened to be one of the people that went on the mission and pussed out like he did in the film, then that’s not much of a problem, but it is if I’m supposed to believe that he was this inspiring figure


They didn’t think of it as a suicide mission. They thought they were going to find the next habitat for humanity, Much like the crew cooper went with.
After it all went to shite and Dr. Mann cowardly/humanly made survival decisions that ended up screwing over the cooper and Brand. He’s basically a metaphor for the hubris and self destructive nature of man.

Phenomenal movie. my unpopular opinion was I enjoyed Damon as Dr. Man, and all the casting in general. Dislike the very ending that it was love that saved humanity, but thats a totally Matt mcconaughey theme lol.
One of the best quotes from this movie - “It’s not possible” - “No, Its necessary”.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/21/20 at 12:06 pm to
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They didn’t think of it as a suicide mission. They thought they were going to find the next habitat for humanity, Much like the crew cooper went with.


Yeah, but if the plan succeeded, 12 of them would die. They had way higher than 1 in 13 chance of dying. Cooper was planning on returning home.
Posted by AMS
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Posted on 5/21/20 at 12:12 pm to
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Yeah, but if the plan succeeded, 12 of them would die. They had way higher than 1 in 13 chance of dying. Cooper was planning on returning home.




I thought they sent out the 12 because they had hope that any/multiple of those maybe habitable, Not that only 1 would be habitable. They could build on more than 1, or as many as were viable, they could go retrieve people who went for the long nap like they did with Dr. Man. thought they just shotgun approached to avoid the all the eggs in 1 basket scenario.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
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Posted on 5/21/20 at 2:29 pm to
Interstellar and Inception have taken opposite trajectories for me.

Interstellar I did not care for initially and now I think it may be Nolan's strongest film.

Inception I thought was great on first watch, now I think it's pretty weak.
Posted by TrapperJohn
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Posted on 5/21/20 at 3:18 pm to
The end of the movie where Cooper tells the medical team that it was nice of them to name the place after him bugs me. The "pffft yeah right" look they give each other would piss me off. Yeah, Murph solved the equation, but only because of the sacrifice of her father.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 5/21/20 at 3:25 pm to
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I don't think I ever cried more during a movie than that scene, and that was before I had kids. If I re-watched it now after having 2 children, I'd probably get dehydrated.


Yeah, that scene was powerful. When a I saw it the 1st time I actually did have children—a boy and a girl—and was going through a divorce. Knowing that I was not going to get to see them every day like I had their whole lives, that scene really hit me in the feels. Time goes by—and kids grow up—way too fast anyway, but especially if you’re not with them every day.

Anyway, I loved all the cool science stuff like everybody else (especially their use of the word “tesseract,” which played prominently in my favorite book as a child A Wrinkle in Time) and the cinematography and score were phenomenal, but it was the relationship between Cooper and his daughter that really moved me and is why I like it so much.

That said, I find Contact more accessible, re-watchable, and ultimately, more moving. Perhaps it was the faith angle that drew me more in as as a teenager, I was struggling with that myself and could relate. And I’d put Interstellar way behind The Prestige (one of my favorite films of all time) and Inception in the Nolan pantheon for sure. Probably behind Memento as well. (The Batmans, while certainly well-made and better than almost everything else that finds their ways to theatres these days, just don’t resonate with me like they do a lot of you).



Btw, is this streaming anywhere? I’d like to check it out again. Inception too.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 5/21/20 at 3:45 pm to
It’s excellent. I hated and still hate the introduction of the time line paradox. It’s stupid. It should have been left open to interpretation. The insistence that Mankind did this is really a stupid thing to do because it twists the plot in on itself for really no reason.

But his best movie and most complete movie is the Prestige, which is practically flawless.

And Arrival is a better film than Interstellar. Just saying.
Posted by meeple
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Posted on 5/21/20 at 4:01 pm to
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I hated and still hate the introduction of the time line paradox
Surprised it took this long for the paradox to be brought up here
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It should have been left open to interpretation
But wasn't it? It was all most people were talking about after seeing it when it first came out.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 5/21/20 at 4:11 pm to
i still dont understand two things:

1) if the wormhole is closed, how is cooper going to get back to brand's planet?
2) if the wormhole is still open, WTF are the colony ships doing still hanging out around saturn?

if this was explained, i missed it
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 5/21/20 at 4:19 pm to
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But wasn't it? It was all most people were talking about after seeing it when it first came out.


Just because people were talking about it doesn’t mean it was open to interpretation. It may have been discussed, but it painfully leaves open a time line paradox. There is no other interpretation of it. Even in trying to solve the paradox, there is, by such attempt, the admission of the paradox. Instead, leave it open for interpretation how it got there rather than insisting humans did it in what is an expository line of dialogue. Repeated to make sure it stands out.
Posted by LSUDUKE
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Posted on 5/21/20 at 4:45 pm to
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The only issues I have with interstellar involve the scene where the immense gravity being applied to the planet so close to a black hole that one hour on that planet = 7 years on earth.


I'm not sure if there's an equation that can link the amount of gravity to exact time dilation but considering that time stops when you get to the event horizon leaves a pretty big gap there.

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Also, for a gravity of that magnitude to exist on that planet, there's no way you can land a ship and walk around safely. We're talking about a gravity thousands of times that of the earth. They would have been immediately crushed by such a force.


The gravity was coming from the black hole, not the planet they were on. The gravity was obviously affecting the tides of the water drastically so I'm not really sure what the overall effect on the humans would be.
Great movie imo but with some obvious stretches. Another one is how they found Coop floating in space and his air was about to run out. I can overlook a few things without it ruining the movie.
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 5/21/20 at 5:45 pm to
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You have to keep in mind that the studio is looking to turn a profit here. Nolan talked about having to reign in kip thorne because what he was pushing for would lose the audience. It's just too complicated for the GA.



Kip Thorne actually claims the issues cited in that post are all fine in his book on the science behind Interstellar. I'm sure SCLUMuddogs on tigerdroppings knows more physics than Kip though.
Posted by keks tadpole
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Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 5/21/20 at 6:18 pm to
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they needed a much better excuse to go to the water planet first.

That was a big mistake that didn't make sense.
Miller touched down in the middle of a two-foot deep ocean, sends the thumbs-up and is killed by a wave < 2 hours later?
You could only assume that she figured the slippage and realized if she spent just a few Miller-Time hours exploring the planet decades would pass on Earth and it could be to late to send the signal.
That said Coop and Brand should have figured that Miller would have been only a few hours into exploration when they arrived and try to contact her to confirm, before risking a decade of Earth-time.
Still - great movie.
"See you on the other side Coop"
This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 6:20 pm
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 5/21/20 at 9:00 pm to
It really fricked me up for a while
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 5/22/20 at 1:55 am to
It went off the rails for me toward the end with the tesseract and the behind the bookcase wall.

A black hole has such dense crushing force it would stretch and compress you to pieces, not to mention the massive radiation that would turn the tiny spacecraft into flaming meltiness. NASA has filmed black holes ripping large stars and other matter into tiny pieces.

I know, I know what your fingers want to spring to your keyboards to furiously type...

Alternate reality, Einstein’s Theory Of Relativity, his “happiest thought”, the lapse of space and time and the laws of physics that govern our very being beyond the event horizon.

The conflict between Einstein’s theory and quantum mechanics has been the source of a lot of thought and research. The general idea is that one or the other is incomplete, flawed, or (gasp) wrong. Right now, no one knows which one.

True, no one knows...from inside a black hole... what happens to something inside a black hole where space and time are warped beyond our laws of physics. We only know from the outside what happens to something being sucked inside a black hole: it is eviscerated. But from within, well, no one knows.

So, yes, we are free to dream up anything we want and say it’s a possibility, like landing inside a tesseract that was created and left that allows you to peer through a wall into your old house and see your daughter and thereby transmitting across dimension and through code complicated quantum data to her. And then you can be somehow released from the tesseract and after floating around somewhere in space in your little suit you can be picked up by other people.

Possible? Sure.

Just not very damn likely at all.

And let’s forget for a minute that these planets are questionably close to this supermassive black hole. And let’s forget about that manmade or alienmade wormhole and just accept it as is.

I really like Nolan and his movies. I like Interstellar. The time when McConnaughey watched movies of his family, his children...all that he sacrificed...that was wrenchingly poignant and devastatingly emotional to the core. His movies probe difficult and complex issues that affect our humanity. They spur thoughtful, deep discussions. He pushes and he pushes...to the point that I often think he pushes one or two steps too far which has the effect of moving his plot past questionable to borderline silly and thereby unnecessarily reducing the overall strength of his work.

But that’s just like my opinion man.
This post was edited on 5/22/20 at 3:06 am
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 5/22/20 at 4:58 am to
Great movie, despite the ending being utter and complete nonsense.
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