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re: Keep politics off this board...thanks...

Posted on 7/26/24 at 2:21 pm to
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
25159 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 2:21 pm to
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Bringing the politics of today into the discussion is the line.


And when the movie does that we ignore it? Or retardedly put it on the poliboard. Ok that’s moronic
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26369 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 2:23 pm to
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The poli board is simply NOT where discussions about political points/themes/driving philosophies of movies and tv shows belong. That’s fricking ludicrous.


Um they pop up there all the time. General media threads, Hollywood threads, conservative films. What was that human trafficking movie that came out not too long ago? Threads everyday about that.

Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
42786 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 2:24 pm to
Where’d my Acolyte comics thread go???


Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26369 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 2:25 pm to
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And when the movie does that we ignore it? Or retardedly put it on the poliboard. Ok that’s moronic


Just don’t derail threads with it or start threads discussing only the political aspect of a show or movie.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
25159 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 2:26 pm to
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Just don’t derail threads with it or start threads discussing only the political aspect of a show or movie.


He should just pay dudes to move those threads as he sees fit and we can watch a board meant to discuss real world politics go “wtf”
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38442 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 2:28 pm to
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The politics of that time frame within the movie is fine. Bringing the politics of today into the discussion is the line.



So we can't talk about how some of the politics represented in All Quiet on the Western Front or Tora Tora Tora might be showing today?
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
40820 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 2:28 pm to
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Because you're going to talk about the movie Civil War without talking about the politics? Wag the Dog? Lincoln?

We can't talk about the message behind Chappy? Or Elysium? Or In Time? Or 12 Monkeys?


I can't remember a time where any of those threads turned into a political pissing match, so I highly doubt they'll be moved or anchored. Certain threads get completely out of hand and no longer are about movies and tv and are just political, those I'm sure will be moved over.

RA'ing a thread or poster to death has never done anything on the this board ever. Not sure who the admin is but not much action is ever taken. Threads that turn into political arguments never even get anchored.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 2:30 pm to
it's funny he listed civil war as a political movie when that movie went out of its way to avoid the current political landscape. they even went as far as pairing Texas and California as on the same side
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
63264 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 2:37 pm to
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People that live like this must literally be so exhausted all the time.
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often massively exaggerated or completely imagined
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38442 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 2:37 pm to
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I can't speak for Chicken, and I'm not going to lie, the new rule is surprising, but I personally don't see this being a some strictly forced rule. I can't see a thread about Battleship Potemkin getting switch over because it's not a thread that's going to turn into a left vs right dick measuring contest. Too often threads about TV and movies turn into absolutely nothing about the actual TV show or movie and just become Poli talk. Who wants that on the M/TV board. Not me. I feel like those are going to be the only threads being moved over and if you're only wanting to talk about politics then who cares if it's on the Poli board.


I mean, I would hope, but rules like this can be used a cudgel.

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Except not everybody is like you and you have guys that are completely opposite that only want to stir the pot. Did you go into GoT thread screaming about sex and incest? No.But you do have people that go into a Rings of Power thread yelling, screaming , and complaining about politics and why everyone should hate it about a show.... they never even watched. I wasn't a RoP fan because I love Tolkien and I think they screwed up the source, but even if I wanted to get on here and talk about the actual show, I couldn't, because the thread had nothing to do with the show, just a bunch of people arguing politics that ran off anybody wanting to talk about the actual show.


So like I said, two separate threads for a show moving forward until this all dies down?

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But you can blame just a handful of posters for this decision happening. If it wasn't for fatkid, kige, sammy, jay are, OML (though he's a different poster since returning from a ban and doesn't really argue), and a few others that are in this thread, this never would have happened/or needed to happen.


Yes. I will blame both the people who go and continually start political discussions with no end in sight, with no regard for what people actually want to talk about, and those who in their "righteousness" to police the board are cutting out a good chunk of discussion material. Both are the same. They both create problems for discourse.

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A much better option would have just cut ties with a handful of posters and ban


Agree. We should make some judicious use of banning people, rather than content.
This post was edited on 7/26/24 at 2:45 pm
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38442 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 2:39 pm to
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I can't remember a time where any of those threads turned into a political pissing match, so I highly doubt they'll be moved or anchored. Certain threads get completely out of hand and no longer are about movies and tv and are just political, those I'm sure will be moved over.


I mean the political environment was different, but were 12 Monkeys released post COVID - I mean.... it's not hard to imagine that discussion.

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RA'ing a thread or poster to death has never done anything on the this board ever. Not sure who the admin is but not much action is ever taken. Threads that turn into political arguments never even get anchored.


So let's ask Chicken to fix this.

I don't disagree we need some change, but I'm sorry, I think it's incredibly whiny to think this is the right solution.
Posted by ThoseGuys
Wishing I was back in NC
Member since Nov 2012
2627 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 2:47 pm to
He should pay some dudes? The guy paying all the cost of maintaining this site should spend more so people can spam threads with "woke" and "pedo"?

I wasn't aware Chicken owed any of the posters on this site anything. I had always been under the impression Chicken was allowed to dictate how things operate and what is intended content for each forum.

Good thing this site isn't a bakery.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
25159 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 3:08 pm to
So in a thread about the Wicked movie will comments about how actually villains are good and right and just strong women who were oppressed be considered “political” and have to happen on a board among threads about Dominion polling machines and illegal immigration?

Also he’s allowed to do whatever he wants. And I commented on it.
This post was edited on 7/26/24 at 3:09 pm
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38442 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 3:09 pm to
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So in a thread about the Wicked movie will comments about how actually villains are good and right and just strong women who were oppressed be considered “political” and have to happen on a board among threads about Dominion polling machines and illegal immigration?


Ding ding ding.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30036 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 3:12 pm to
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Honestly, this board will die if these things cannot be discussed here. If we can't discuss a film's content, there's no reason to discuss a film.


If the no politics ban is reinforced I guarantee the ADU metric of this subforum will go up over time.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85400 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 3:15 pm to
I think it’s pretty obvious what Chicken wants.

I think you can make your commentary, but if someone disagrees with you, defend it with actual evidence from the movie.

Right now those conversations turn into 5 pages of bickering and name calling. That is what has killed this board. And we all know the handful of posters that drive those threads.

I don’t understand the confusion in this thread. We all know the problem and it isn’t simply commentary about the actual movie. It’s how threads devolve once someone disagrees.

Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14803 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 3:16 pm to
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Honestly, this board will die if these things cannot be discussed here. If we can't discuss a film's content, there's no reason to discuss a film.


Haha, only the current version of it would die. This board was honestly a lot of fun before posters like you came around.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38442 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 3:21 pm to
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I don’t understand the confusion in this thread. We all know the problem and it isn’t simply commentary about the actual movie. It’s how threads devolve once someone disagrees.


But that's not what the OP is banning?
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14803 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 3:22 pm to
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We have a political board for stuff like that.


Thanks for doing this. I remember when you tried it on the OT. It didn’t quite stick but hopefully it does here. I think it would just take a month or two of consistent monitoring and management to give it a chance.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85400 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 3:24 pm to
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But that's not what the OP is banning?


Do you honestly think Chicken is going to ban posts that are simple commentary on a movie and its plot?

Because I certainly don’t.
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